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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:251107 Archived-At: On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 7:19 PM Dmitry Gutov wrote: > So we don't care about upsetting even the "friendly" developers among > lsp-mode team, and either forcing them to rename the package (and thus I, for one, am actually working on a way of getting s.el included in GNU Elpa with no extra effort from any of its users, which would include lsp-mode.el I suspect. And the same tool, or proper namespaces, could be easily used to fix this (IMO quite irrelevant) "my lsp predates your lsp" question you're stirring up. Also, I'm outta this thread, Jo=C3=A3o