From: "João Távora" <joaotavora@gmail.com>
To: Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@posteo.net>
Cc: "T.V Raman" <raman@google.com>, emacs-devel <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: &allow-other-keys + &rest body in cl-defmacro (was: Permanently fix org versioning breakage during builds?)
Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2023 12:09:34 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CALDnm533cDxedUQju-975yWuSrn20AxXe+KonsyeWYF018CJQw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87a5pya5ga.fsf@localhost>
On Mon, Dec 25, 2023 at 11:23 AM Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@posteo.net> wrote:
>
> João Távora <joaotavora@gmail.com> writes:
>
> >> Hmm... It actually looks like a problem with `cl-defmacro' rather than
> >> with macro definition itself.
> >
> > No, Common Lisp's DEFMACRO works exactly like this. You need to understand
> > how &rest works with &key and &allow-other-keys. It _also_ keeps the keys.
> > That's just how it works.
>
> Now I feel a bit like RMS when he complained about CL-lib introducing
> alien concepts to Elisp :)
It's not Cl-lib's fault that the Org developers made a mistake and didn't
understand how the Common Lisp tool they selected works.
Even in Elisp a zillion macros are correctly written in this form:
(defmacro with-foo (options-when-fooing &rest body)
It's exactly the same, only you need to do the destructuring yourself.
cl-defmacro simplifies this for free with
(cl-defmacro with-foo ((&key option1 option2) &body body)
You (or the Org devs) just made a mistake that's all, happens to everybody.
Don't blame Cl-lib for it.
> What about non-breaking change like the attached?
You should be checking for `keywordp` instead, because &allow-other-keys.
João
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Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-12-22 17:27 Permanently fix org versioning breakage during builds? T.V Raman
2023-12-23 17:58 ` João Távora
2023-12-23 18:06 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-23 18:44 ` João Távora
2023-12-24 11:50 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-24 14:13 ` João Távora
2023-12-24 14:48 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-24 16:32 ` João Távora
2023-12-24 16:36 ` T.V Raman
2023-12-24 17:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-24 17:04 ` João Távora
2023-12-24 17:16 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-24 17:48 ` João Távora
2023-12-24 18:13 ` T.V Raman
2023-12-24 18:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-24 18:13 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-24 23:11 ` João Távora
2023-12-25 11:26 ` &allow-other-keys + &rest body in cl-defmacro (was: Permanently fix org versioning breakage during builds?) Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-25 12:09 ` João Távora [this message]
2023-12-25 12:21 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-25 19:00 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-25 13:58 ` Permanently fix org versioning breakage during builds? Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-25 17:42 ` João Távora
2023-12-25 18:24 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-24 17:05 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-24 17:12 ` João Távora
2023-12-24 17:18 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-24 17:24 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-24 17:54 ` João Távora
2023-12-24 18:10 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-24 18:16 ` João Távora
2023-12-24 18:23 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-24 18:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-24 18:56 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-24 18:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-24 18:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-24 14:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-24 23:14 ` João Távora
2023-12-24 2:43 ` T.V Raman
2023-12-24 6:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-24 16:29 ` T.V Raman
2023-12-24 16:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-24 11:00 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-24 12:32 ` Po Lu
2023-12-24 12:50 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-24 12:57 ` Po Lu
2023-12-24 14:11 ` Stefan Kangas
2023-12-24 14:51 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-24 14:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-24 16:59 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-24 17:26 ` T.V Raman
2023-12-24 17:44 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-24 18:01 ` João Távora
2023-12-24 18:12 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-24 18:16 ` T.V Raman
2023-12-24 18:25 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-24 18:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-24 18:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-24 19:23 ` Stefan Kangas
2023-12-24 18:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-24 18:11 ` T.V Raman
2023-12-24 18:17 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-24 19:31 ` T.V Raman
2023-12-24 18:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-24 17:56 ` João Távora
2023-12-24 18:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-24 18:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-24 18:50 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-24 18:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-24 19:05 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-24 23:23 ` João Távora
2023-12-24 19:16 ` Stefan Kangas
2023-12-24 19:24 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-24 16:32 ` T.V Raman
2023-12-24 16:39 ` João Távora
2023-12-24 16:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-24 17:05 ` João Távora
2023-12-24 18:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-25 18:59 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-25 19:27 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-25 20:02 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-25 20:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
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