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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:296871 Archived-At: --000000000000121dea05ea327d2a Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I don't think so. It could, somewhat but would be akward. Gerd's suggestion is much a much more natural way to solve this bike shed. At the Lisp symbol level, at least. At the package level (as in Elisp .el file names) it does nothing for this particular semiotic bike shed. Jo=C3=A3o On Tue, Oct 4, 2022, 08:43 Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2022 07:25:19 +0200 > > Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, joaotavora@gmail.com > > From: Gerd M=C3=B6llmann > > > > > At the very least, we should consider adding some alias, like > > > `start-lsp', and/or `lsp-start'.[2] > > > > Wouldn't it be nice if Emacs had CL packages? Then everyone could add > > superior names as a package nickname. That would make bikeshedding muc= h > > easier :-). > > Does shorthands.el fit the bill? > --000000000000121dea05ea327d2a Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I don't think so. It could, somewhat but would be akw= ard. Gerd's suggestion is much a much more natural way to solve this bi= ke shed. At the Lisp symbol level, at least. At the package level (as in El= isp .el=C2=A0 file names) it does nothing for this particular semiotic bike= shed.

Jo=C3=A3o
On Tue, = Oct 4, 2022, 08:43 Eli Zaretskii <eliz@g= nu.org> wrote:
> Date: Tu= e, 4 Oct 2022 07:25:19 +0200
> Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, joaotavora@gmail.com
> From: Gerd M=C3=B6llmann <gerd.moellmann@gmail.com> >
>=C2=A0 > At the very least, we should consider adding some alias, li= ke
>=C2=A0 > `start-lsp', and/or `lsp-start'.[2]
>
> Wouldn't it be nice if Emacs had CL packages?=C2=A0 Then everyone = could add
> superior names as a package nickname.=C2=A0 That would make bikesheddi= ng much
> easier :-).

Does shorthands.el fit the bill?
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