From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: =?UTF-8?B?Sm/Do28gVMOhdm9yYQ==?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Imports / inclusion of s.el into Emacs Date: Tue, 5 May 2020 23:12:39 +0100 Message-ID: References: <266155d4-f9c0-8ed3-8df5-32feea171076@yandex.ru> <87sggeca0v.fsf@russet.org.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="96822"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Dmitry Gutov , Stefan Monnier , Emacs developers To: Phillip Lord Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed May 06 00:13:25 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jW5ob-000P8f-Hl for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 06 May 2020 00:13:25 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:49356 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jW5oa-0005Id-K0 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 05 May 2020 18:13:24 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:37892) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jW5o5-0004pX-EZ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 05 May 2020 18:12:53 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-io1-xd2b.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4864:20::d2b]:41878) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jW5o4-0007xG-K1 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 05 May 2020 18:12:53 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-io1-xd2b.google.com with SMTP id w11so52443iov.8 for ; Tue, 05 May 2020 15:12:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=B36ndKTDMI4q/8NtY30EC7myALBVIbSjJ4bo7uMj/3Y=; b=feY/dXKS/0KqTQ3R7U4Frko5qpHxJwHGFX5ICRphUHxCNxsdC8FSCZ6S1Mb1vOXRav pmjWq2UUSOTPESHpKij+ph15gM9xOJIB3vxCyO5sS+oCqv1BHrq3b2h7bhOD/Hq5568E suKlqRm7npMg7tuq1SRnKPKAX24Ayjhxt2+GJ3n/81HLck5E0YRmUqDC9Fq4SrPgrGIS RgexnpPlnVfJkEPSElDh44i3rbfh9VPVmH+WLcmfuHHBcb43zLaGmcGkEWYOeWqn1lXE AUxRMcxi0auC+fWZHMj6y09323R9dca9qgrwPdYPxxFm5lxS9rER8qD95x1j5/YjH5Pz W1iw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=B36ndKTDMI4q/8NtY30EC7myALBVIbSjJ4bo7uMj/3Y=; b=NGhXdfqf6wYbDVzx/KCTgX6y8qrpvT0bOJth2lWANrEfBa8xnX4sGtmcxyg2fDnADu /5c0GhFs2mysLX4/DFncw9/q3gSqz0kxXPWrPqFomSbc9btRyjhU3fBdDQN5izdQcMgB 7qq6Ha48cuUriKL2MLWpLxj0Y0AJchSt4cYOtvNQmSnligDrgjYYFf3OTDvLeQoVuSfs T4FTUIe8JICrU0JE+zE/H2JjsGPZ21pZiLL0OALeQy4NkyzOe94h/9TxBIEITh9o/uYw /5BjT2sRQr0FAXR5/LGg9v1ZPDRpxeNayWNfuXMbuHRjy0b7zL8pzOa0EKvh3Hkr3zY5 dCRg== X-Gm-Message-State: AGi0PuZcFPL7oo/4bRbKeyok2H9jLzIeZ+8FvnPPNFLA/tKuZ8vaSUfi 1F1UL+RS3vIACl8YAM96deeKqnobwn78uv28eU4= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APiQypLDXy7rTIXzc0Ekbu6Uvrx5e0OUyl5ZOOgVcSsD5LngfXKCTWk3lpISdUkBjHsUX83Tqr4V5ehZFp/PcM39Sak= X-Received: by 2002:a6b:9244:: with SMTP id u65mr5662443iod.165.1588716771495; Tue, 05 May 2020 15:12:51 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87sggeca0v.fsf@russet.org.uk> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2607:f8b0:4864:20::d2b; envelope-from=joaotavora@gmail.com; helo=mail-io1-xd2b.google.com X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: No matching host in p0f cache. That's all we know. X-Spam_score_int: -10 X-Spam_score: -1.1 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, FROM_EXCESS_BASE64=0.979, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001 autolearn=_AUTOLEARN X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:249055 Archived-At: On Tue, May 5, 2020 at 11:05 PM Phillip Lord w= rote: > We'd still have a problem if Emacs had full namespaces right? Packages > always hog the high value namespace. Not necessarily. You can declare locally you want to use all the symbols of a namespace with no qualification or very terse qualification. Like python's "import as" Most CL packages systems have that, by the way. It's called package-local nicknames. If we implement namespaces, we want something like that. Jo=C3=A3o --=20 Jo=C3=A3o T=C3=A1vora