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From: "João Távora" <joaotavora@gmail.com>
To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>
Cc: Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>, emacs-devel <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Indentation of def*
Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2021 10:32:51 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CALDnm52_75muw0yoK4HE-bRUCL7xRNP2wSp8GefgYr8zYspBXA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87ee8gnlar.fsf@gnus.org>

On Wed, Oct 20, 2021 at 9:38 AM Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> wrote:
>
> João Távora <joaotavora@gmail.com> writes:
>
> > Right. And your example is a _function_.  Why don't you _at least_ keep
> > the heuristic for macros? Isn't that a worthy compromise, a "no-worse"
> > situation? It would fix your default-boundp example and, if Richard's
> > example deffoober is a macro (I'd say there's a good chance it is,
> > statistically speaking) then the calls to that macro would also be
> > indented correctly.
> > What am I missing?
> We've been over this.  There's both functions and macros that want to be
> indented like a defun, and there both functions a macros that don't want
> to be, and sometimes they're called something that starts with def* and
> sometimes they don't.

Right, I know.  I was referring to the example you gave. I've
also asked you for the listings that you've supposedly collected
on those things so we can make a better informed decision.

But, regardless, is it not so that there are various grades of
change here?

a - do nothing
b - keep heuristic but only for macros, delete for everything else.
c - delete heuristic entirely

From your perspective, isn't 'b' better than 'a'? Yes I get that, for you,
'c' > 'b' and that's why you did it.

But I think there are at least some situations where 'b' is preferrable.

So I'd like to have 'b' please. A compromise.  We could add those
debug specs to the def _functions_ like your example. Whoever
these functions are and however many there are. Again, it'd be
great to have the data. Some data.

Thanks,
João



  reply	other threads:[~2021-10-20  9:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-10-13 23:13 Indentation of def* Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-14  4:22 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-10-14 11:07 ` Po Lu
2021-10-14 11:14   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-14 11:23     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-14 12:05       ` Po Lu
2021-10-14 12:09         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-14 12:22           ` Po Lu
2021-10-14 12:49             ` João Távora
2021-10-14 13:40               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-14 21:41                 ` João Távora
2021-10-15  9:57                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-15 10:14                     ` João Távora
2021-10-14 13:25             ` Stefan Kangas
2021-10-14 13:30               ` Po Lu
2021-10-14 19:06                 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-10-14 23:42                   ` Po Lu
2021-10-15  0:50                     ` Stefan Kangas
2021-10-15  5:21                       ` Po Lu
2021-10-15  6:50                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-15  8:35                         ` Stefan Kangas
2021-10-15 10:42                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-15 13:07                             ` Stefan Kangas
2021-10-15 13:30                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-15 13:48                                 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-10-15 13:17                       ` Stefan Monnier
2021-10-15 12:42                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-15 12:43                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-14 18:35             ` Stefan Monnier
2021-10-18  8:02 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-20  6:47   ` Richard Stallman
2021-10-20  7:52     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-20  8:19       ` João Távora
2021-10-20  8:38         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-20  9:32           ` João Távora [this message]
2021-10-20  9:36             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-20 16:10               ` João Távora
2021-10-23 23:26             ` Richard Stallman
2021-10-24 13:22               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-24 14:27                 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-10-24 15:19                   ` João Távora
2021-10-24 16:23                     ` Stefan Monnier
2021-10-24 16:55                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-24 18:36                       ` João Távora
2021-10-27 14:37                     ` Richard Stallman
2021-10-27 14:36                 ` Richard Stallman
2021-10-27 14:40                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-30  6:49                     ` Richard Stallman

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