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That's all we know. X-Spam_score_int: -10 X-Spam_score: -1.1 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, FROM_EXCESS_BASE64=0.979, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=_AUTOLEARN X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:250748 Archived-At: --000000000000edc70805a5ec4bc7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, May 18, 2020 at 2:28 PM Philippe Vaucher wrote: > > IIRC US and German citizens can sign the copyright assignment > > electronically (no snail mail involved). Citizens of other countries > > can't do that yet. > Yes, as I said I also could print-sign-scan-email, but that's still a > lot of work compared to just "browse to some webpage and click next" > like I did. Isn't it enough to overlay a bitmap of your signature into the PDF file, or does the FSF really require that you print a dead-tree version and then rescan it back onto digital? I "signed" lots of documents using the overlay technique recently for my university. It was very easy and IMO entirely equivalent to the print-and-scan method, security-wise. You can do it easily from the Gimp, and likely most image-editing programs. Jo=C3=A3o --000000000000edc70805a5ec4bc7 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Mon, May 18, 2020 at 2:28 PM Philippe Vaucher <philippe.vaucher@gmail.com>= wrote:
> IIRC US and German citizens can sign the copyright assignment
> electronically (no snail mail involved). Citizens of other countries > can't do that yet.
Yes, as I said I also could print-sign-scan-email, but that's still a lot of work compared to just "browse to some webpage and click next&qu= ot;
like I did.

Isn't it enough to overlay = a bitmap of your signature into the PDF file,
or does the FSF rea= lly require that you print a dead-tree version and
then rescan it= back onto digital?=C2=A0 I "signed" lots of documents using
the overlay technique recently for my university. It was very easy an= d
IMO entirely equivalent to the print-and-scan method, secu= rity-wise.
You can do it easily from the Gimp, and likely most im= age-editing
programs.

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