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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:248804 Archived-At: --000000000000e233b405a4cfd37a Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, May 3, 2020, 04:26 Stefan Monnier wrote: > > I really cannot wait till you get to renaming > > functions concerning lines: `line-...' or > > perhaps `lines-...'. And their aliases... > > I must say I find this mildly offensive. It's basically a strawman > argument. > > All of us arguing in favor of structuring the namespace have made it > very clear we have no intention of applying this everywhere. > It's rather a (tongue-in-cheek, yes) argument by reduction to absurdity, which starts most validly from the premise of "consistency" in the opposing camp. 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On Sun, May 3, 2020, 04:26 Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> wrote:
> I really cannot wait till you get to = renaming
> functions concerning lines: `line-...' or
> perhaps `lines-...'.=C2=A0 And their aliases...

I must say I find this mildly offensive.=C2=A0 It's basically a strawma= n argument.

All of us arguing in favor of structuring the namespace have made it
very clear we have no intention of applying this everywhere.

It's rather= a (tongue-in-cheek, yes) argument by reduction to absurdity, which starts = most validly from the premise of "consistency" in the opposing ca= mp.

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