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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:309321 Archived-At: On Sun, Aug 27, 2023 at 11:51=E2=80=AFAM Dmitry Gutov wr= ote: > > On 27/08/2023 09:26, Jo=C3=A3o T=C3=A1vora wrote: > > In my personal case I find no significant difference in working with > > either model. I find certain GitHub discussions and issue threads > > just as pleasant or toxic as the things I find here. I find email > > reviews of patches no more complicated than those sophisticated > > boxes. Trivial patches to typos and stuff are indeed a little > > harder to apply here compared with the the big green button. But > > then trivial patches aren't the things moving a project > > forward anyway. > > Have you noticed any difference in the amount of bug reports here vs > Github? Any difference in the volume of user participation: further > comments, follow-ups, etc? I still keep the GitHub repo open for those, though it's not the code upstream anymore. Some discussions still happen there (and I ask to move them here if I find them particularly relevant). A hybrid solution much like TRAMP and Gnus and other projects. I'd say I notice an increase in _total_ participation if I add the Emacs bug tracker + emacs-devel + that, but one would have to measure. The ratio seems to be about two GitHub posts for every Emacs tracker post. These things are very seasonal though, and usually correlate with announcement of new features, new versions of the LSP standard, etc. And of course they correlate heavily with the time that _I_ have to devote to the project. If I am more active, so are Eglot's users. A point worth mentioning is that the quality of bug reports (and feature requests and support requests) is generally slightly higher in the Emacs bug tracker, as I think people feel the responsibility of writing something structured and consistent instead of just a screenshot and a "look it doesn't work". They write it usually under their own name and email address (as opposed to a somewhat anonymous alias). I think this is a good thing. So I don't know how to answer your question, given this hybrid model. I think if I had just shut down the GitHub, we'd see more stuff pop up in Emacs tracker, but admittedly some users would give up. Then again, as Po observes, some users likely find the GitHub registration a barrier to participation, too. I get some personal email as well. Jo=C3=A3o