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X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:4864:20::d30 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:242713 Archived-At: On Mon, Nov 25, 2019 at 7:26 PM Alan Mackenzie wrote: > > So can you explain your new objection? > > Consistency. Best consistency tends do arise when taking a good hard look of the pros and cons of each change, instead of citing blanket policy. > All little tweaks to Emacs functionality which "everybody is bound to want" end up irritating people immensely, [ I could remember some introduced by you, but this is besides the discussion. ] > I can't remember any arguments you may have made Here they are: see the second paragraph and the ensuing discussion, where Eli suggests benchmarks: https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2019-10/msg00537.html I can summarize: 1. There are no adverse or surprising behaviors; 2. There is negligible performance impact; 3. There is a demonstrated benefit; I've only done so much work testing each of these assertions, and I'd of course be interested in hearing (concrete) objections. Jo=C3=A3o