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That's all we know. X-Spam_score_int: -10 X-Spam_score: -1.1 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, FROM_EXCESS_BASE64=0.979, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001 autolearn=_AUTOLEARN X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:249446 Archived-At: On Sat, May 9, 2020 at 3:17 PM Alfred M. Szmidt wrote: > > I don't resist asking: does relinquishing copyright of a work to > the "Free Software Foundation" a "nonprofit with a worldwide > mission to promote computer user freedom" really say nothing > about what values one wishes to endorse? > > Those are the values the FSF promotes, not the person assigning their > copyright to the FSF. They also do not "relinquishing" their rights; > after signing a copyright assignment you still can use the code you > wrote as you see fit, even license it under a non-free license. I'm not a lawyer. It would seem from my layman's standpoint that I performed a voluntary action that helped some other entity in the world. I could have chosen not to, but I didn't, and that matters. Jo=C3=A3o PS: it also says the FSF owes me a dollar! Where is it? :-)