From: "João Távora" <joaotavora@gmail.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: "Clément Pit-Claudel" <cpitclaudel@gmail.com>,
emacs-devel <emacs-devel@gnu.org>,
"Stefan Monnier" <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>,
"Dmitry Gutov" <dgutov@yandex.ru>
Subject: Re: Add a separate mode for .dir-locals.el
Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2019 12:22:38 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CALDnm51vtNv=x7LTGi0FhwKKtOTw4DvapEej0+okJKjRxf8bWg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83sgnm2wl1.fsf@gnu.org>
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On Mon, Oct 21, 2019 at 11:59 AM Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote:
> There is no "Lisp program", only "Lisp data". A program is Lisp data
> that makes sense as a program.
Yes, and your last sentence describes exactly what I like to
call a "Lisp program". Let's just agree to give it that name,
OK. So that it "exists" (in fact a large part of Emacs is made
up of the stuff).
> The argument is not about the need for a fix, it's about where the fix
> should be. Ideally, the byte-compiler should have got its act
> together and not attempted to produce code out of those files.
> Failing that, we need to help the byte compiler DTRT.
It's been shown many times the problem is not exclusive to the
byte-compiler. It's merely an example of a tool that only makes
exclusive sense for "Lisp programs", or "data that makes sense
as a program" as you put it.
> > This was also already said several times.
> > By you, exclusively, right? Or by someone else I missed?
> Also by Andreas and by Richard.
Not true of Richard: he said "All code is data, but only some
data is code". That is exactly the distinction I am making.
João
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Thread overview: 98+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-10-17 2:07 Add a separate mode for .dir-locals.el Clément Pit-Claudel
2019-10-17 2:20 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-10-17 7:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-17 11:51 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2019-10-17 12:21 ` João Távora
2019-10-17 13:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-17 13:51 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2019-10-17 15:45 ` Yuri Khan
2019-10-17 15:47 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2019-10-17 16:55 ` Amin Bandali
2019-10-17 14:00 ` João Távora
2019-10-17 15:12 ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-10-17 15:32 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-10-17 15:41 ` João Távora
2019-10-17 15:47 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2019-10-17 16:37 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-10-17 17:04 ` João Távora
2019-10-17 17:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-17 17:42 ` João Távora
2019-10-17 17:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-17 18:09 ` João Távora
2019-10-17 18:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-17 19:00 ` João Távora
2019-10-17 19:21 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-17 19:53 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-10-18 7:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-18 12:56 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-10-17 21:35 ` João Távora
2019-10-18 8:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-18 8:38 ` Juanma Barranquero
2019-10-18 13:14 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-10-18 10:25 ` João Távora
2019-10-18 12:33 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-18 13:43 ` João Távora
2019-10-18 14:07 ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-10-19 9:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-19 11:00 ` João Távora
2019-10-19 11:08 ` João Távora
2019-10-19 11:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-19 12:55 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2019-10-19 13:36 ` João Távora
2019-10-19 14:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-19 16:13 ` João Távora
2019-10-19 12:53 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2019-10-19 14:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-19 16:51 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2019-10-19 20:41 ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-10-19 21:35 ` Alan Mackenzie
2019-10-19 22:01 ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-10-20 5:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-20 8:17 ` João Távora
2019-10-20 15:40 ` Juri Linkov
2019-10-20 19:29 ` João Távora
2019-10-21 12:43 ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-10-21 13:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-21 13:34 ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-10-21 13:41 ` João Távora
2019-10-21 13:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-19 20:38 ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-10-20 5:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-20 20:21 ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-10-21 6:24 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-21 7:05 ` João Távora
2019-10-21 7:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-21 8:25 ` João Távora
2019-10-21 10:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-21 10:28 ` João Távora
2019-10-21 10:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-21 11:22 ` João Távora [this message]
2019-10-21 11:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-21 11:39 ` João Távora
2019-10-21 12:26 ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-10-17 19:50 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-10-17 19:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-17 20:32 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-10-18 7:34 ` Michael Albinus
2019-10-18 7:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-18 13:11 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-10-19 10:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-19 14:05 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-10-17 16:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-17 17:47 ` Alan Mackenzie
2019-10-17 18:08 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-10-17 19:46 ` Alan Mackenzie
2019-10-17 20:19 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-10-17 18:19 ` João Távora
2019-10-17 19:38 ` Alan Mackenzie
[not found] ` <CALDnm50Q+QuhYRqZxV4-YzAAqhmU05+nOS3Oh1wvcJsYEX+sbg@mail.gmail.com>
2019-10-17 14:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-17 15:31 ` João Távora
2019-10-17 8:55 ` Andreas Schwab
2019-10-17 11:48 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2019-10-17 12:03 ` Andreas Schwab
2019-10-17 12:10 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2019-10-18 3:14 ` Richard Stallman
2019-10-17 13:40 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-10-19 12:28 ` Why we SHOULDN'T add " Alan Mackenzie
2019-10-19 12:59 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2019-10-19 22:04 ` Dmitry Gutov
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