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From: "João Távora" <joaotavora@gmail.com>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Attaching context info to an error
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2023 18:48:32 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CALDnm51aCStBiz51+C6ab_aCesjTN7gzqdso-+F2Kor=LLLaCA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvo7e8987s.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org>

On Fri, Dec 29, 2023 at 6:35 PM Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> wrote:
>
> > That's got no connection with what I wrote.  What I'm asking you to
> > confirm is that you're not contemplating introducing error handling
> > machinery which, during bootstrap, will only work after Lisp code has
> > been loaded.
>
> The idea is:
>
> - In the short term, provide new functions that allow manipulating
>   errors in a way that's independent from their representation
>   (as cons cells).
>   Hopefully this will make the code also more readable in many cases.
>   E.g. (error-resignal ERR) instead of (signal (car ERR) (cdr ERR)).
>
> - In the longer term once enough code has been adapted to use the new
>   functions, we may be able to consider changing the representation of
>   error objects.  Presumably error objects would then be changed from
>
>       (list ERROR-TYPE DATA1 DATA2 ...)
>
>   to something like
>
>       (record ERROR-TYPE DATA1 DATA2 ...)
>
>   This shouldn't require anything tricky during bootstrapping.
>
>   But in any case we're pretty damn far from this.  I'd estimate that we
>   have at least 10 years ahead of us to decide if and how we want to
>   make that change.

I concur.  And maybe, to keep 100% backward compatibility to
current Lisp code, condition-case is AFAIK is the only current
to get at error objects from Lisp, would still get the
good-ol cons  representation for those 10 years, or even forever.

João



      reply	other threads:[~2023-12-29 18:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-12-21 22:30 Attaching context info to an error Stefan Monnier
2023-12-22  6:50 ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-12-22  8:37   ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-12-22 15:58   ` Stefan Monnier
2023-12-28  6:57     ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-12-22 20:56 ` Jens Schmidt
2023-12-22 22:37   ` Stefan Monnier
2023-12-23  3:02 ` João Távora
2023-12-23  3:28   ` João Távora
2023-12-26 20:12     ` Stefan Monnier
2023-12-26 20:47   ` Stefan Monnier
2023-12-26 22:43     ` João Távora
2023-12-27  6:50       ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-12-27 10:29         ` João Távora
2023-12-27 10:35           ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-12-27 17:50       ` Stefan Monnier
2023-12-27 18:08         ` João Távora
2023-12-27 18:28           ` João Távora
2023-12-27 19:08           ` Stefan Monnier
2023-12-27 19:27             ` João Távora
2023-12-27 20:27               ` Stefan Monnier
2023-12-27 23:08                 ` João Távora
2023-12-28  7:05                   ` Stefan Monnier
2023-12-28 14:12                     ` João Távora
2023-12-28 16:03                       ` Stefan Monnier
2023-12-28 17:15                         ` João Távora
2023-12-28 19:22                           ` Stefan Monnier
2023-12-28 23:53                             ` João Távora
2023-12-29  2:54                               ` Stefan Monnier
2023-12-29  3:43                                 ` João Távora
2023-12-29 16:54                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2023-12-29 17:29                                     ` João Távora
2023-12-29 17:39                                       ` João Távora
2023-12-30  4:29                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2023-12-30 16:45                                         ` João Távora
2023-12-29 17:19                                   ` Alan Mackenzie
2023-12-29 17:24                                     ` João Távora
2023-12-29 17:43                                       ` Alan Mackenzie
2023-12-29 17:54                                         ` João Távora
2023-12-29 18:08                                           ` Alan Mackenzie
2023-12-29 18:45                                             ` João Távora
2023-12-29 18:35                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2023-12-29 18:48                                           ` João Távora [this message]

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