From: "João Távora" <joaotavora@gmail.com>
To: Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@posteo.net>
Cc: "T.V Raman" <raman@google.com>, emacs-devel <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Permanently fix org versioning breakage during builds?
Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2023 18:44:34 +0000 [thread overview]
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LOn Sat, Dec 23, 2023, 18:03 Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@posteo.net> wrote:
> João Távora <joaotavora@gmail.com> writes:
>
> > Another way to fix this issue is for the org developers to not deal with
> > macro expansion-site recompilation problems so aggressively, and making
> > more use of the "call-with" idiom whereby a macro immediately expands to
> a
> > function that has all the frequently-changing implementation details.
>
> May you elaborate?
>
I have already elaborated a while back, but on a tangent deep down in a
thread and I'm on my phone right now. So maybe these links would give you
an idea of what it looks like.
http://random-state.net/log/3390120648.html
https://www.reddit.com/r/Common_Lisp/comments/okvgf0/examples_of_callwith_style_in_macros/
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12476032
These are all common lisp related, but there are, I'm fairly sure, numerous
examples in Elisp, though not necessarily named "call-with". Let me know
what you understand of the examples before we continue.
You may also want to elaborate yourself on an example of a macro that is
emblematic of the expansion-site recompilation problem that, as I contend,
you fixed somewhat heavy-handedly and lead to these recurring irritations
to many users. We can see if we can fix that example with with the
technique I allude to.
João
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Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-12-22 17:27 Permanently fix org versioning breakage during builds? T.V Raman
2023-12-23 17:58 ` João Távora
2023-12-23 18:06 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-23 18:44 ` João Távora [this message]
2023-12-24 11:50 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-24 14:13 ` João Távora
2023-12-24 14:48 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-24 16:32 ` João Távora
2023-12-24 16:36 ` T.V Raman
2023-12-24 17:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-24 17:04 ` João Távora
2023-12-24 17:16 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-24 17:48 ` João Távora
2023-12-24 18:13 ` T.V Raman
2023-12-24 18:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-24 18:13 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-24 23:11 ` João Távora
2023-12-25 11:26 ` &allow-other-keys + &rest body in cl-defmacro (was: Permanently fix org versioning breakage during builds?) Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-25 12:09 ` João Távora
2023-12-25 12:21 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-25 19:00 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-25 13:58 ` Permanently fix org versioning breakage during builds? Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-25 17:42 ` João Távora
2023-12-25 18:24 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-24 17:05 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-24 17:12 ` João Távora
2023-12-24 17:18 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-24 17:24 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-24 17:54 ` João Távora
2023-12-24 18:10 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-24 18:16 ` João Távora
2023-12-24 18:23 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-24 18:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-24 18:56 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-24 18:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-24 18:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-24 14:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-24 23:14 ` João Távora
2023-12-24 2:43 ` T.V Raman
2023-12-24 6:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-24 16:29 ` T.V Raman
2023-12-24 16:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-24 11:00 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-24 12:32 ` Po Lu
2023-12-24 12:50 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-24 12:57 ` Po Lu
2023-12-24 14:11 ` Stefan Kangas
2023-12-24 14:51 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-24 14:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-24 16:59 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-24 17:26 ` T.V Raman
2023-12-24 17:44 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-24 18:01 ` João Távora
2023-12-24 18:12 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-24 18:16 ` T.V Raman
2023-12-24 18:25 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-24 18:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-24 18:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-24 19:23 ` Stefan Kangas
2023-12-24 18:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-24 18:11 ` T.V Raman
2023-12-24 18:17 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-24 19:31 ` T.V Raman
2023-12-24 18:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-24 17:56 ` João Távora
2023-12-24 18:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-24 18:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-24 18:50 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-24 18:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-24 19:05 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-24 23:23 ` João Távora
2023-12-24 19:16 ` Stefan Kangas
2023-12-24 19:24 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-24 16:32 ` T.V Raman
2023-12-24 16:39 ` João Távora
2023-12-24 16:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-24 17:05 ` João Távora
2023-12-24 18:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-25 18:59 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-25 19:27 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-25 20:02 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-25 20:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
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