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That's all we know. X-Spam_score_int: -10 X-Spam_score: -1.1 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, FROM_EXCESS_BASE64=0.979, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001 autolearn=_AUTOLEARN X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:249488 Archived-At: On Sat, May 9, 2020 at 4:39 PM Philippe Vaucher wrote: > > > > I think Eli has indicated that LSP support in the core is desirable > > > at some point > > > > Not only desirable: long overdue. Emacs must learn to use the latest > > technologies of supporting programming languages based on real > > parsing, because the time when it could be done with regular > > expressions and similar techniques has come and gone. We cannot > > enable significant new IDE-like features if we don't acquire these > > technologies. > > > > Please someone start working on this ASAP. We sorely need that, just > > look at the recent discussions on Reddit that underline these > > deficiencies in Emacs. > > Sorry to sound like captain obvious, but shouldn't we contact the > people at https://github.com/emacs-lsp/lsp-mode and work with them on > this? Maybe that's already the case? I know there are also other > repositories with more or less the same goal. If I'm not mistaken, at some point the goal of lsp-mode previous mantainer Vibhav Pant was to eventually enter GNU Elpa, but I think that goal has been abandoned. In contrast, Eglot's goal has always been that. This is why I collect copyrights and sure to work only with GNU Elpa libraries. Jo=C3=A3o