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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:314194 Archived-At: --0000000000002175e5060d499c80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Dec 24, 2023, 14:56 Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > From: Jo=C3=A3o T=C3=A1vora > > Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2023 14:13:26 +0000 > > Cc: "T.V Raman" , emacs-devel > > > > Keep in mind something in the build system is causing builds to fail > with cryptic messages even for > > people who don't use Org or rarely ever do. I've never touched any Org > related files in my life, why > > should it blow up in my face? > > Building Emacs requires to build several manuals whose source is in > Org, and thus you need a working Org, otherwise the build will fail. > IOW, even if you personally don't visit Org files and don't use any > Org feature, the build does. > Ok, then that explains why 'make' fails, and one more reason we should work so it doesn't blow up in users faces when they have just updated their branch. Jo=C3=A3o > --0000000000002175e5060d499c80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Sun, Dec 24, 2023, 14:56 Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote:
> From: Jo=C3=A3o T=C3=A1vora <joaotavora@gmail.c= om>
> Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2023 14:13:26 +0000
> Cc: "T.V Raman" <raman@google.com>, emacs-devel <= emacs-devel@gnu.org>
>
> Keep in mind something in the build system is causing builds to fail w= ith cryptic messages even for
> people who don't use Org or rarely ever do. I've never touched= any Org related files in my life, why
> should it blow up in my face?

Building Emacs requires to build several manuals whose source is in
Org, and thus you need a working Org, otherwise the build will fail.
IOW, even if you personally don't visit Org files and don't use any=
Org feature, the build does.
=
Ok, then that explains why 'make' fails= , and one more reason we should work so it doesn't blow up in users fac= es when they have just updated their branch.

Jo=C3=A3o
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