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That's all we know. X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=_AUTOLEARN X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:252291 Archived-At: On Wed, Jun 17, 2020 at 11:09 PM Dmitry Gutov wrote: > > On 18.06.2020 00:50, Juri Linkov wrote: > > Actually the hardest question is to decide what keys to use > > to navigate completions in the vertical layout. It would be > > natural to use arrow keys and M-p/n, but there keys are used > > for history navigation in the minibuffer. > > I think C-n/P-n is what users would expect. See Ivy, Helm, etc. > > Arrow keys, too. But those already have meaning in navigating history. So before a potentially compatibility-breaking decision is made, we must understand exactly what we're gaining and losing. Contrary to what I believed C-n and C-p should be fine, though. I personally want to never lose C-s/C-r because that's what Ido uses. In fact, I hope this discussion (of which I've missed a few mails) is now concentrating on adding this to Icomplete, not Fido specifically. Jo=C3=A3o