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That's all we know. X-Spam_score_int: -10 X-Spam_score: -1.1 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, FROM_EXCESS_BASE64=0.979, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001 autolearn=_AUTOLEARN X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:249549 Archived-At: On Sat, May 9, 2020 at 7:36 PM Dmitry Gutov wrote: > On 09.05.2020 20:58, Jo=C3=A3o T=C3=A1vora wrote: > > I can make a minimal eglot-interfaces.el file for Emacs core > > that defines some hooks, has some docstrings, etc, make _that_ > > a :core package and keep business as usual in Eglot in > > Github/Elpa. > > That doesn't sound too bad. Bonus points if the same hooks could be > universal for the LSP protocol, i.e. if lsp-mode could conceivably use > them too. The thing is, you haven't exactly explained why Eglot in core sounds bad, either. You say Eglot in GNU Elpa is decent already and I agree. But having it in core would bring some advantages, particularly for me, I admit. Having to jump back and forth between xref.el, project.el, eldoc.el, flymake.el, jsonrpc.el and eglot.el in different repos is not much fun. I really wish I could do it here: a holistic approach is much better. And you would _still_ have it in GNU Elpa for older Emacsen to use. Jo=C3=A3o