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That's all we know. X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=_AUTOLEARN X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:252382 Archived-At: On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 6:30 PM Michael Albinus wr= ote: > > Jo=C3=A3o T=C3=A1vora writes: > > Hi Jo=C3=A3o, > > > I practice, what kind of remotely adverse impact do you > > expect from installing 2.4.4? Is it a very large download? Does > > the compilation take very long? Something else? > > I don't expect any adverse impact. It's just the "principle of least > surprise". Personally, I dislike software which installs something else > w/o any need. Actually, I agree. I personally use the latest Emacs 28 to avoid these kinds of package.el woes (and to keep developing on the packages themselves). > But you're right, likely nobody will complain in practice. So pls ignore > my mumbling :-) You're at least a "data point" in my decision. I want that users at least have the option of running Eglot remotely over Tramp on Emacs 27.1. There are options for that. 1. The package-requires way. Seems to be "the future"; 2. You bring that bugfix to Emacs 27; 3. I dont' do anything, wait for bug reports and tell people to install a n= ewer Tramp; 4. I put in an automated check in eglot.el that does the same as 3. Jo=C3=A3o