From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Robert Park Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Call for testing: Daily snapshot builds of Emacs for Ubuntu Date: Tue, 14 May 2013 20:36:53 -0700 Message-ID: References: <20130514170537.789aa0c1@anarchist> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1368589066 17693 80.91.229.3 (15 May 2013 03:37:46 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 15 May 2013 03:37:46 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Barry Warsaw Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed May 15 05:37:47 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UcSXC-0005NT-Py for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 15 May 2013 05:37:46 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42480 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UcSXC-0005aQ-En for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 14 May 2013 23:37:46 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:50123) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UcSX5-0005a2-9z for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 14 May 2013 23:37:43 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UcSX1-0004zm-GE for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 14 May 2013 23:37:39 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-ie0-x230.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4001:c03::230]:42648) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UcSX1-0004ze-B9 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 14 May 2013 23:37:35 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-ie0-f176.google.com with SMTP id at1so2717702iec.21 for ; Tue, 14 May 2013 20:37:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=hX79tYtcE3d6wQh7KLAxyZaczqUu3XTJlIE8dRXaoqU=; b=F8BbixlJU4Wt0qWogqL9UmfhnRID5vYroHifiDfAxnWGCZmrGLpk9NKqv8kmz7BCel R/kbBwURZOcZWYR2kSS0r7cGL2qm+1e4QUxrjOxoE7pE9qESPq204tR0xeYDCT94lVlW 4lV+pa9/hVwV75QUaHnIF0KWIAmVfzcu37FNVKVwUA8lIG3nO6AliAgdazG9+KzuqX9b BwNNq9xJiKZeAgfWfqV0OrV2xbvgA5T8NySyjNl3Z2q4UhH+gy6vTsjcQNksa/KfP2F0 XwuuSJMZnnRwUDk8qKtruyN+SKetBlwdm+u0lHT6CJjN6XdBfrSMynqRjJzcvsvzhr0M KsyQ== X-Received: by 10.50.49.102 with SMTP id t6mr4210255ign.48.1368589054198; Tue, 14 May 2013 20:37:34 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.64.8.46 with HTTP; Tue, 14 May 2013 20:36:53 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20130514170537.789aa0c1@anarchist> X-Google-Sender-Auth: OGRLq4czz5SG4NfPA9VVjJ1IQO0 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:4001:c03::230 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:159583 Archived-At: On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 2:05 PM, Barry Warsaw wrote: > On May 11, 2013, at 05:06 PM, Robert Park wrote: >>* No support for elisp packages installed by dpkg. This issue is >>unfortunately more complicated than simply twiddling load-path and I'm >>still investigating it. However, I consider this issue quite minor >>because package.el support is *superb* in trunk and I highly recommend >>it's flexibility over the elisp packages installed by dpkg. > > Still, I think this would need to be solved to be a serious contender for > replacing the Debian-inherited Emacs package for Ubuntu. Yes, of course. I never suggested that I would want my packaging to become the official ubuntu package without any support for elisp debs. All I'm saying is that I have a PPA which will always contain a version of Emacs that is less than 24 hours old. This is useful to Ubuntu users who want to develop or test the latest version of Emacs, because they can install it and automatically get updates every day, without having to do any work at all. The benefits are that it's completely automated, so even if I take a vacation, users of my PPA continue receiving daily updates. Julien's emacs-snapsot package does not actually get imported into Ubuntu at all[0] (or at least not since 2009), and emacs24 seems stuck at 24.2[1], so I am actually filling a very real void here for Ubuntu users who wish to avoid stale versions of Emacs. [0] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/emacs-snapshot [1] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/emacs24