From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [RFC] automatically retrying network connections Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2018 00:26:40 +0100 Message-ID: References: <87sh4dfz8r.fsf@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1532301912 9153 195.159.176.226 (22 Jul 2018 23:25:12 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2018 23:25:12 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Noam Postavsky , Emacs developers To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jul 23 01:25:07 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fhNis-0002Cw-UV for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 23 Jul 2018 01:25:07 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:57795 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fhNkz-0004Ll-Q8 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 22 Jul 2018 19:27:17 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:36328) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fhNkp-0004LQ-CH for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 22 Jul 2018 19:27:12 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fhNkk-00038w-2t for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 22 Jul 2018 19:27:07 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-io0-x235.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4001:c06::235]:41186) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fhNkj-00038s-UE for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 22 Jul 2018 19:27:02 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-io0-x235.google.com with SMTP id q9-v6so14101608ioj.8 for ; Sun, 22 Jul 2018 16:27:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=73AYHMVX5jr7yTUAOadt9vfxBSSzO0FalUBNHORBVVk=; b=NdoqGQahnfy6mYVijk96sD5viXCAMXZAlXhRPj37A7t1rPIdjvvCmUBEk0AUOosgVM uKShLEDuv+kSJ0inJ27Ij57Ls3L4o8Etj4XTyJuQX0RcMIV8M9Aat8TQgc9JchQqnMsI bWMCs/CUGy3So8tiq48PuowM6UQLMkz/BQiBHxS9IVfM4nAkk/A+egS8IOgXOPQB6Tly F7BKDIYRbsSNFGxh8MRJkdbvfzI6MHcOrsB+et7bVHMcEN//4QYOS2rSCzZY24R7ya6X L+2TP9xCB9nbdFpV589R/W9nJy11p9qF28fG9COoxmjqy1RfrQPas2xBnmBcafyEkwhy oFGg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=73AYHMVX5jr7yTUAOadt9vfxBSSzO0FalUBNHORBVVk=; b=OB2toyI18G9xk7gPAqQiuIw/BaRr1bmtXCd4WEvrojePtrh8y0+/NjI4S0Ri+Zt8Rb 2r23nAjsin3dKPDb5vDKUI7aT0IVN+bO6zds0xS4tLdgqiaWXUz4iJIwWWq64SfTqB65 GI/Nou3Jhqi3F3+KY3i3w7V7P0Qw0Zss5pm1W9si0hwaybC75vowwSCTuqGJVxVidmq9 /YwQkJij+E9nehGjF1gA8LbqR4d0XvDwMHmH82F/LWTi5+eJePNGrrWggHuffx/LCt4i h9gu0ODWDSF5YY5g6jViOqbbYmQBTvGpMNBikWX900uoSRrZvxa/6UGfhNxKhMg9pUfv RShg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOUpUlH3gX020oCRdfzn26+UPVndDa7YbKTJN6MrkPedHk6QtoNQABnB QeXw+juWHFVcjYXT1rYKS0fw7S9hqEPbcoLuvEM= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AAOMgpduioWVPkqcMfQ7TtC/RWR0eXVto52dw0iMSYUYdqvvZ8BzUZbyTA5hYYbfozjQAU7lQAMkxneNN5iXrB9X6wg= X-Received: by 2002:a6b:c5c6:: with SMTP id v189-v6mr8067572iof.167.1532302021218; Sun, 22 Jul 2018 16:27:01 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 2002:a02:985d:0:0:0:0:0 with HTTP; Sun, 22 Jul 2018 16:26:40 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:4001:c06::235 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:227691 Archived-At: On Sun, Jul 22, 2018 at 2:41 PM, Lars Ingebrigtsen wrote: > Noam Postavsky writes: > >> Maybe because NSM currently does very few checks by default, and so is >> rarely triggered at all (i.e., the reason this whole thread started in >> the first place)? > > Well, it does certificate checks, which in practice will represent 99.7% > of all user interactions. The TLS protocol checks check for things that > barely exist in real life. (Except as test suites and at villainous > sites, and it's the latter we want to protect against.) > Or that both of you have over-estimated people's willingness and ability to report bugs to emacs :)