From: Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong <wyuenho@gmail.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>,
Emacs-Devel devel <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: A couple of questions and concerns about Emacs network security
Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2018 15:58:45 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAKDRQS4hakmigOEWqis2mjqUccywAeKDoK=X84gesGRNvMjsdA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83601pixph.fsf@gnu.org>
On Sun, Jul 8, 2018 at 3:55 PM Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote:
>
> > From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>
> > Date: Sun, 08 Jul 2018 16:06:39 +0200
> > Cc: Emacs-Devel devel <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
> >
> > But, yes, as Eli says, `paranoid' should perhaps do more for non-TLS
> > connections. The question is "what", though, because there's no
> > fingerprint (beyond the host/port number) that we can use to verify
> > that a non-TLS connection is to a previously seen host.
>
> We could look at the browsers for inspiration, perhaps?
>
Browsers have only 1 security level, and shows a green padlock on the
address bar for HTTPS, and no padlock for cleartext connection.
There's no warning whatsoever. If you want to do the padlock think,
you might want to do it in EWW and all those Email/Newsgroup packages
instead of NSM.
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2018-06-22 22:00 A couple of questions and concerns about Emacs network security Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-06-22 22:43 ` Paul Eggert
2018-06-22 23:21 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2018-06-22 23:33 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2018-06-23 1:35 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-06-23 10:23 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2018-06-23 10:34 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2018-06-23 10:48 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-06-23 11:32 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2018-06-23 11:55 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-06-23 12:05 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2018-06-23 12:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-06-23 12:15 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2018-06-23 12:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-07 9:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-08 14:01 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2018-07-08 14:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-08 15:06 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2018-07-08 15:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-06-23 12:45 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-06-24 12:53 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2018-07-05 13:33 ` Perry E. Metzger
2018-07-05 13:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-05 15:29 ` Perry E. Metzger
2018-07-05 18:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-05 19:26 ` Paul Eggert
2018-07-05 19:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-05 20:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-06 17:03 ` Paul Eggert
2018-07-06 17:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-06 18:15 ` Paul Eggert
2018-07-07 7:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-07 10:30 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-07-07 11:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-05 20:46 ` Perry E. Metzger
2018-07-05 20:45 ` Perry E. Metzger
2018-07-06 6:29 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-06 23:08 ` Richard Stallman
2018-07-07 12:18 ` Perry E. Metzger
2018-07-07 13:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-07 13:46 ` Perry E. Metzger
2018-07-07 14:17 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-07 15:25 ` Perry E. Metzger
2018-07-07 16:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-07 23:46 ` Richard Stallman
2018-07-08 0:25 ` Perry E. Metzger
2018-07-08 2:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-08 22:55 ` Richard Stallman
2018-07-07 14:32 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-07-07 15:15 ` Perry E. Metzger
2018-07-07 15:39 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-07-07 18:16 ` Paul Eggert
2018-07-07 23:03 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-07-07 15:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-07 23:45 ` Richard Stallman
2018-07-05 13:50 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-07-05 15:30 ` Perry E. Metzger
2018-07-05 15:36 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-07-05 16:05 ` Perry E. Metzger
2018-07-05 22:44 ` Richard Stallman
2018-07-06 6:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-06-23 0:00 ` Paul Eggert
2018-06-23 0:10 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-06-23 9:57 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2018-06-23 2:17 ` Noam Postavsky
2018-06-23 6:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-06-23 10:21 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-06-23 11:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-06-23 22:28 ` Noam Postavsky
2018-06-24 14:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-06-24 14:34 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2018-06-24 14:48 ` Noam Postavsky
2018-06-24 15:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-06-24 16:57 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2018-06-24 17:10 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-06-24 17:39 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2018-06-24 18:29 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-06-24 18:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-06-24 21:30 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-06-25 1:25 ` Van L
2018-06-25 2:28 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-06-25 2:38 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-06-25 17:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-06-25 17:25 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-06-25 18:06 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-06-24 20:58 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2018-06-24 21:07 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2018-06-24 22:47 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-06-25 0:04 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2018-06-25 0:33 ` Noam Postavsky
2018-06-25 0:36 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2018-06-24 21:28 ` Noam Postavsky
2018-06-24 21:57 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2018-06-25 16:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-06-25 16:29 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-06-25 16:58 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2018-06-25 17:08 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-06-25 17:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-06-30 17:40 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-06-30 18:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-06-25 17:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-06-25 17:17 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-06-25 16:55 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2018-06-25 17:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-06-25 17:20 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-06-25 17:33 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2018-07-05 15:52 ` Perry E. Metzger
2018-07-05 15:58 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-07-05 16:36 ` Perry E. Metzger
2018-07-05 16:51 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-07-05 18:25 ` Perry E. Metzger
2018-07-05 18:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-05 18:43 ` Noam Postavsky
2018-07-05 20:31 ` Perry E. Metzger
2018-07-08 11:43 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2018-07-08 14:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-06 9:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-05 15:33 ` Perry E. Metzger
2018-07-05 18:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-06 8:36 ` Robert Pluim
2018-07-06 8:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-06 9:35 ` Robert Pluim
2018-07-06 12:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-06 12:52 ` Robert Pluim
2018-07-06 13:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-06 9:45 ` Stephen Berman
2018-07-06 12:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-06 13:50 ` Stephen Berman
2018-07-07 7:15 ` martin rudalics
2018-07-07 12:22 ` Stephen Berman
2018-07-07 13:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-07 13:47 ` Stephen Berman
2018-07-08 8:11 ` martin rudalics
2018-07-05 15:10 ` Perry E. Metzger
2018-06-23 6:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-06-23 10:34 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-07-05 15:58 ` Perry E. Metzger
2018-07-05 19:20 ` Paul Eggert
2018-07-05 20:46 ` Perry E. Metzger
2018-07-05 22:44 ` Richard Stallman
2018-07-06 6:42 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-07-06 8:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-06 9:28 ` Robert Pluim
2018-07-06 13:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-06 18:06 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-07-06 18:48 ` Perry E. Metzger
2018-07-07 7:02 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-07 9:36 ` Robert Pluim
2018-07-07 9:59 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-07-07 10:01 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-07-07 21:44 ` Ted Zlatanov
2018-07-07 21:59 ` Paul Eggert
2018-07-07 22:11 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-07-09 23:09 ` Ted Zlatanov
2018-07-10 18:20 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-07-10 18:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-10 18:40 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-07-10 18:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-13 20:50 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-07-14 6:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-14 17:18 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-07-14 18:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-07 22:13 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-07-09 13:09 ` Robert Pluim
2018-07-09 13:33 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-07-09 13:43 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2018-07-09 13:49 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-07-09 17:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-09 17:24 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-07-10 0:06 ` Perry E. Metzger
2018-07-10 0:03 ` Perry E. Metzger
2018-07-10 0:02 ` Perry E. Metzger
2018-07-06 13:03 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-07-06 14:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-06 21:24 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-07-07 7:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-08 14:06 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2018-07-08 14:54 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-07-08 15:13 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2018-07-08 16:56 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-07-08 17:06 ` Paul Eggert
2018-07-08 17:25 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-07-08 17:53 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2018-07-08 18:54 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-07-08 19:30 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2018-07-08 19:32 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-07-08 22:56 ` Richard Stallman
2018-07-08 17:47 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2018-07-08 18:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-08 18:12 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-07-08 18:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-08 18:39 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2018-07-08 18:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-08 19:22 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-07-09 16:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-09 17:17 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-07-09 17:36 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-07-09 17:38 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-07-09 18:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-09 18:10 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-07-09 18:33 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-09 18:47 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-07-10 16:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-08 19:28 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2018-07-08 19:31 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-07-09 17:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-09 17:02 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-09 17:09 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-07-09 15:29 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-07-09 16:35 ` Robert Pluim
2018-07-08 18:31 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-07-08 18:42 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2018-07-08 19:28 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-07-08 17:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
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2018-07-08 14:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-08 14:58 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong [this message]
2018-07-08 15:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-08 15:16 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2018-07-06 16:53 ` Paul Eggert
2018-07-06 23:11 ` Richard Stallman
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