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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:302632 Archived-At: > I'm not familiar with the SaaSS acronym. I assume it's a modification of "Software as a Service", but Google is not showing me anything with the additional "S". Could you elaborate or point to a definition? Service as a Software Substitute[1]. It's a (rightly) pejorative term. I think the term was coined by Richard Stallman. [1] https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/who-does-that-server-really-serve.en.html On Mon, Jan 23, 2023 at 9:25 PM Lynn Winebarger wrote: > > On Mon, Jan 23, 2023, 7:26 AM Po Lu wrote: >> >> >> As I explained earlier, it is probably morally fine if the library is >> free software, as long as it does not promote SaaSS, load proprietary >> software itself (think web browsers), et cetera. > > > I'm not familiar with the SaaSS acronym. I assume it's a modification of "Software as a Service", but Google is not showing me anything with the additional "S". Could you elaborate or point to a definition? > > Lynn