From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: PJ Weisberg Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: `isearch-allow-scroll' - a misnomer and a bad design Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 07:35:26 -0700 Message-ID: References: <20110909215255.GD2733@acm.acm> <7002A9DA9A804F0B9F6F251FD3A2B263@us.oracle.com> <20110911103940.GA3246@acm.acm> <3C4B7E318EB04AE4B7DB9FD0E4C67629@us.oracle.com> <20110911173012.GA3088@acm.acm> <20110912093651.GA3249@acm.acm> <20110913142732.GB3081@acm.acm> <7E2EE144B11D413583E1E659CDE15186@us.oracle.com> <8739g0vyuy.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <4E6FF63A.4070604@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174764b4ca727804ace7ab97 X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1316010947 14819 80.91.229.12 (14 Sep 2011 14:35:47 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 14:35:47 +0000 (UTC) Cc: "emacs-devel@gnu.org" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Sep 14 16:35:40 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1R3qYu-0007pN-8I for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 14 Sep 2011 16:35:40 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54808 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1R3qYt-0002AG-9G for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 14 Sep 2011 10:35:39 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:38375) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1R3qYn-0002AA-Sv for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Sep 2011 10:35:37 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1R3qYi-0002PQ-Ag for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Sep 2011 10:35:33 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-fx0-f41.google.com ([209.85.161.41]:59147) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1R3qYi-0002PL-2O for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Sep 2011 10:35:28 -0400 Original-Received: by fxh17 with SMTP id 17so1922038fxh.0 for ; Wed, 14 Sep 2011 07:35:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:cc :content-type; bh=hwxL0+64WmXW1jvZz+z+3TJ7D4Er+Zb/vpzQvysrPxY=; b=eOCOsMSP0DaabKSuHLXW49rX29cB/71F1AK+3DTN9nIpuK7MmvBAlEZRwh3xNYGgeY hLRORwH0PgzD3AkgJxiNODzzmE6jNatAkcqUAl3J/g/MX8Ecuh29WB1INJQhAaSa3WEk xAUA93kFEW6fIHcc6D/KO5mCEMDzz7lgbWm2I= Original-Received: by 10.223.64.66 with SMTP id d2mr83292fai.116.1316010926436; Wed, 14 Sep 2011 07:35:26 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.223.96.7 with HTTP; Wed, 14 Sep 2011 07:35:26 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 209.85.161.41 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:144023 Archived-At: --0015174764b4ca727804ace7ab97 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Wednesday, September 14, 2011, Richard Stallman wrote: > It is not an issue of how many "ways to exit isearch" there are. It > is an issue of how many commands you need to remember WON'T exit the > search. The idea of isearch is that control characters exit, except > for a short list of a few. But that list has been growing. But does it make sense to think of C-u as a command in itself? It's *always* used in conjunction with another command, which may exit isearch or not. -- -PJ --0015174764b4ca727804ace7ab97 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wednesday, September 14, 2011, Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org> wrote:
> It is not an issue of how man= y "ways to exit isearch" there are. =A0It
> is an issue of = how many commands you need to remember WON'T exit the
> search. =A0The idea of isearch is that control characters exit, except=
> for a short list of a few. =A0But that list has been growing.
<= br>But does it make sense to think of C-u as a command in itself? =A0It'= ;s *always* used in conjunction with another command, which may exit isearc= h or not.

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