From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: John Yates Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Your commit 7409a79 Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2014 12:32:36 -0500 Message-ID: References: <83h9x917il.fsf@gnu.org> <85k324h0hg.fsf@stephe-leake.org> <83k324yv44.fsf@gnu.org> <85tx17dqzy.fsf@stephe-leake.org> <83y4qixhq8.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a1133a9c6f8af820509b7cf74 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1418059982 17490 80.91.229.3 (8 Dec 2014 17:33:02 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2014 17:33:02 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Stephen Leake , Emacs developers To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Dec 08 18:32:55 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Xy2B4-0004dU-Nj for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 08 Dec 2014 18:32:54 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:35215 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xy2B4-00008U-At for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 08 Dec 2014 12:32:54 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:34054) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xy2Ar-00008D-6c for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 08 Dec 2014 12:32:42 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xy2Ap-0007oD-TE for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 08 Dec 2014 12:32:41 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-yk0-x22a.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4002:c07::22a]:64706) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xy2An-0007nE-Vt; Mon, 08 Dec 2014 12:32:38 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-yk0-f170.google.com with SMTP id q200so2452203ykb.1 for ; Mon, 08 Dec 2014 09:32:36 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=BIR5O3VHRkEjb+o7vRCD33Vwxthh0DnrkyEnpCjntgI=; b=SkdR5fUhbdEje/hLR8KcYP1s7i6yYRwoWiXjMU8RRg8OxZoEyCUDt7f3rY8ipRKxri YXLYhRTgHYzIkIOYwmJKYlDbEOiLMrx5Yt8a9bffzOJ/Nkq47qurZiy5iT2JjWMhjqjW 6eeSkRR6Wp642bAihkRLuUDDcsHpubOYvxMesSp/nd/HZmlYLowH9YQup6awmsI1w7Q1 6T1qgPr1p14HD9lNVvsUHxGLdILFWzTRysGYDNUxn2wI03Pj2yUMf4OYx+33Iby/l+52 qftV7DwxySaPBtQjuhDuuRbJAWWv1WJgdKdFCiQuAohCQ1J+ZglV1zJ4SOBTBLCIbSrh cc9w== X-Received: by 10.236.3.36 with SMTP id 24mr32123164yhg.72.1418059956398; Mon, 08 Dec 2014 09:32:36 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 10.170.224.5 with HTTP; Mon, 8 Dec 2014 09:32:36 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <83y4qixhq8.fsf@gnu.org> X-Google-Sender-Auth: mB58HjhMAf4hqCJjpm_doYV1juw X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:4002:c07::22a X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:179422 Archived-At: --001a1133a9c6f8af820509b7cf74 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 10:51 AM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > I wonder how low we will agree to descend in the name of "lowering > the barriers". Especially since this particular barrier is yet to be > proven to be one. > While GNU ChangeLog conventions may be off-putting to those we hope to recruit git subject line hygiene is widely discussed, documented and viewed as a "best practice". Failure to practice it ourselves is more likely to be viewed as one more instance of our being out of touch with the better elements of emerging practice than as a boon to new recruits. /john --001a1133a9c6f8af820509b7cf74 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On M= on, Dec 8, 2014 at 10:51 AM, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote:<= br>
I=C2=A0wonder how low we will agree to de= scend in the name of "lowering
the barriers".=C2=A0 Especially= since this particular barrier is yet to be
proven to be one.

While GNU ChangeLog c= onventions may be off-putting to those we
hope to recruit git sub= ject line hygiene is widely discussed, documented
and viewed as a= "best practice".=C2=A0 Failure to practice it ourselves is more<= /div>
likely to be viewed as one more instance of our being out of touc= h with
the better elements of emerging practice than as a boon to= new recruits.

/john
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