From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: John Yates Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Three cheers for Eli! Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2018 10:02:18 -0400 Message-ID: References: <20180528174225.GA4316@ACM> <300eabee-1f11-268c-619f-373399d65ad2@yandex.ru> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000003bbafe056d950805" X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1527861673 15985 195.159.176.226 (1 Jun 2018 14:01:13 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2018 14:01:13 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Emacs developers , Dmitry Gutov , Kaushal Modi To: Richard Stallman Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jun 01 16:01:09 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fOkc8-00042y-GJ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 01 Jun 2018 16:01:08 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:55902 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fOkeF-0004UB-De for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 01 Jun 2018 10:03:19 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:34933) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fOkdK-0004Pt-JO for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 01 Jun 2018 10:02:26 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fOkdJ-0000a8-RO for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 01 Jun 2018 10:02:22 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-yw0-x230.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4002:c05::230]:45686) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fOkdI-0000Yw-BP; Fri, 01 Jun 2018 10:02:20 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-yw0-x230.google.com with SMTP id v190-v6so5944007ywa.12; Fri, 01 Jun 2018 07:02:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc; bh=gtGlAHwAD8bHNVkzuOpfpPVQglgmo8xV/GgVl+kUjKc=; b=VaNTtnNo4iGMgtGnVcar/vi3+3uxN6oEyrYUgkB8CRfkrcAQS/G64Nap4JytS225MZ e0gfUYqP5DNWTsV+6q35Yagn7dYbanhZoOQfUQUjSJ2jbV7AyDXcP1/Sb//EBpO6iHBh mDqEYlMHbYHXkJdDHQQ+pqwacA4hbRIdwmEJpNeAovEh8utv3xZ0a44Lr/DGsJNhLlsH oJAt939IvnF7lQ0UnzSa77b+UPQOOeUwEiuOBLleM+OldhyjBKKBbxsbOeyte5yoQzB8 Me6zdG6fpvThep02dWIBebWD1H+3NbEVnHI6T1h2tx1Z64A6rNCXdt3FtTUwr/QIl2XI QgfA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=gtGlAHwAD8bHNVkzuOpfpPVQglgmo8xV/GgVl+kUjKc=; b=bGxkIfF0AHjFgNTZLc/BjpDLdBYVukXWL63gFbUJQGVh25RiI5xTgd3l3ko4XM1pyJ WejCMvr/0zTbNfj8eWjA7FN33oX0wTeUGbljfbQa8IDDBy8IknwnLEwx25MyUHkOn15J ijsK/N7HkT52S30PMitGmSfbsSDwNXMygI1bDfQKdjTgI2FV3fDF6nuhDiM3suoBcZ1R gCuygcSXDIHS2ParhoB4cvBqi2NyO7AlwINOZ1h/vofwjbNn60+OHoVu58OzVJJJpyl8 iJAWNfzU76FrjI1//qcifCFmxWDccsXAgScVpbkOdzNJ08iASDoit+eihaft1TdMU4qt utkg== X-Gm-Message-State: ALKqPwdO5v0/hk9d9tD1pWoqgh+Tohr/B3r32Wb+GIRuKMaeErvkDdUI NOgE0hFdxIaAvS2YgD0byShvQjksKBHjqDCwiR138A== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ADUXVKJ5/8VkbV1k98YsqlaR7Nch91Q0Cr9qOdeZnv4Uz+SRWMIEjfMNC5Ymk75/I0KuRnzZzdqZc+McjYvMtfOt8FI= X-Received: by 2002:a81:ae24:: with SMTP id m36-v6mr6071834ywh.412.1527861739237; Fri, 01 Jun 2018 07:02:19 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 2002:a25:b1a8:0:0:0:0:0 with HTTP; Fri, 1 Jun 2018 07:02:18 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-Google-Sender-Auth: zzI4fhRc6Q3ojwy-E3S8-YSj5xk X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:4002:c05::230 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:225894 Archived-At: --0000000000003bbafe056d950805 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 11:02 PM, Richard Stallman wrote: > Please don't think of Emacs as an "open source project". > That would give you the wrong idea of what our goals are. > =E2=80=8BMore accurate might have been "free or open source projects". That said my phrase was not meant to reference in any way the goals of any of those projects. Only that each conducts its development in the open with source code and communications=E2=80=8B accessible to all. Would you like to suggest some better phrase I might use in the future when referring to such a collection? /john --0000000000003bbafe056d950805 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Thu, Ma= y 31, 2018 at 11:02 PM, Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org> wrote:
Please don't think of Emacs as an= "open source project".
That would give you the wrong idea of what our goals are.
<= div>
=E2=80=8BMore accurate might have been "free or = open source projects".

That said my phrase was no= t meant to reference=C2=A0= in any way the
goals of any of those projects.=C2=A0 Only th= at each conducts its
development in the open with source code and c= ommunications=E2=80=8B
accessible to all.

Woul= d you like to suggest some better phrase I might use in
the future = when referring to such a collection?

/john

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