From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: John Yates Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Packages quality Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2022 06:45:02 -0500 Message-ID: References: <164145738158.2838.5769558384331859964@vcs2.savannah.gnu.org> <20220106082302.0A19CC0DA1E@vcs2.savannah.gnu.org> <87k0fdmbat.fsf@posteo.net> <87tueh3s2x.fsf@posteo.net> <3c5d2b69-7292-4e15-82e5-9f146979257d@www.fastmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="22495"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Bozhidar Batsov , Stefan Monnier , Emacs Devel To: Stefan Kangas Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Jan 07 12:59:36 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1n5nuB-0005iq-6r for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 07 Jan 2022 12:59:35 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:47996 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n5nu9-0003VE-EU for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 07 Jan 2022 06:59:33 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:52962) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n5ngL-00031o-Dp for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Jan 2022 06:45:17 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-ua1-f52.google.com ([209.85.222.52]:41654) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n5ngI-0002OQ-Rw for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Jan 2022 06:45:17 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-ua1-f52.google.com with SMTP id p37so9655934uae.8 for ; Fri, 07 Jan 2022 03:45:14 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=QxgFpq41HucZrSfS6kDsqyfJ+H5MEtez5I/YhIJvOdk=; b=iJ6hyvku4HtJ8j/pb48Phmi2PLY8Go1zjV0rq7Mv7ZCS26vHf3hMbX/IvGbUctrmzV PORhSO0D9JWLGOyDSMFn75S69PirPxs9Hv1rXb8xVTnv2FNPutJkYVwQ5Ym1R0DDICoW Ybvawcu9w5K+7IwHqF7uLYh1YCPf2V7BNYHg5k2FIpnpqNSKL4vplCjMzXvy7uCbLXug Nx1jYxe/3eqnLK2dKzHuKklW7+uAHQSKvvFq6cCeSOOzcwAXh1H/7CIPoQ9ABs4GDFlH rpLcApp2Jstd0GeQPnHnNoEGMtpH/1hX30dm6fsT1riHNaY1bKc45KG6ED1QjKtTj6lj gFTg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531VFOr4CTfTGQd5uNxQS/LEKvM8pKgOEXXEXLkm7fQqTbTGK43V U3FfsGD/kH+rTrw1jDmUMP6riPKwVq0/RmThPPE= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxmWkL3qXb9h12fA3rNOMK7WW1aJmY0tfjYZnOwdgZwsiGHdH1tM+BDyOuByobvArtVI17UvC8Td9Do7JLRWmc= X-Received: by 2002:ab0:2c17:: with SMTP id l23mr21234659uar.130.1641555913319; Fri, 07 Jan 2022 03:45:13 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=209.85.222.52; envelope-from=john.yates.sheets@gmail.com; helo=mail-ua1-f52.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -13 X-Spam_score: -1.4 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN=0.25, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.25, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:284410 Archived-At: On Fri, Jan 7, 2022 at 2:56 AM Stefan Kangas wrote: > > I don't know if this is what you mean, but one example that comes to > mind is how straight.el is not at all integrated with package.el (which > in your opinion, IIRC, could be rectified). As a very happy user of straight I feel that Radon Rosborough, straight's author, is being unfairly maligned. He has integrated straight exactly as John Wiegley intended. From use-package's README.md: Usage with other package managers By overriding use-package-ensure-function and/or use-package-pre-ensure-function, other package managers can override :ensure to use them instead of package.el. At the present time, the only package manager that does this is straight.el.