From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: John Yates Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: "Point" vs. "cursor" in documentation Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2018 16:16:07 -0400 Message-ID: References: <037e45ba-ae4d-7aa7-bfa2-dd6a27aaff26@disroot.org> <863C33CF-82A6-43C3-8EE3-2082096C338B@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1530648863 30256 195.159.176.226 (3 Jul 2018 20:14:23 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2018 20:14:23 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Drew Adams , Emacs developers To: brandelune@gmail.com Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jul 03 22:14:19 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1faRgo-0007lL-MC for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 03 Jul 2018 22:14:18 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42468 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1faRiv-0002eX-OO for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 03 Jul 2018 16:16:29 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:35288) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1faRip-0002eS-Ai for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Jul 2018 16:16:23 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1faRil-0000JB-Bb for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Jul 2018 16:16:23 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-yb0-f179.google.com ([209.85.213.179]:36000) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1faRil-0000He-6g for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Jul 2018 16:16:19 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-yb0-f179.google.com with SMTP id s1-v6so1225071ybk.3 for ; Tue, 03 Jul 2018 13:16:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=G5DWHrh1f+nRG+iTvnqgs0u03PeIPBe4E2WX5ho5Qbo=; b=JcUHflZAjdAgqU1gXNXANBsbeTMCBZGiIbU3mLxJK93pSJDWrxeg6L4amkY8uW/e0n XFel7N7pql6TdGQ+Fw6TGsWETpIHVAf2NP3Cq7IiDI3cdvKWheDD2JxkwuP6q0d8pol7 G6H+16FCgzlxNb1x6pDbufFr3IypdK3pnYAH9gKRFYfJG06bSv3QZkN5zYFSdUthSLnG +O40VHmzwm6QgzpKzeDWXW15GgE1nDp6B1O3i03oGCrbxEoJgI4llVUow+npwHnknOfW KUEN3toDxSF2OL9EMW/d1akNNUUaZz2i3vS9E1rIrT8pIRjKLGeYhqy0gkdWrBbBYFKg H/lQ== X-Gm-Message-State: APt69E0zQ49vi75lIaGGL4dMXVKGPUI6FVZYRCJVhf1Gg00gg+15nCnI llE3+osMa5Eoci5lxX/VyJx5u4R/gqklV+2WvW4= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AAOMgpe7AKRTIKiI+Ps0KdnhMJrzA4IraGCc9KE7b0iQvxxN0X/v386qE+5PQuP63TgObjrCdOe97mtnkWdBy6F4hQ0= X-Received: by 2002:a25:785:: with SMTP id 127-v6mr4449265ybh.239.1530648978224; Tue, 03 Jul 2018 13:16:18 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <863C33CF-82A6-43C3-8EE3-2082096C338B@gmail.com> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 209.85.213.179 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:226916 Archived-At: On Tue, Jul 3, 2018 at 10:38 AM Jean-Christophe Helary wrote: > From the Introduction to Emacs Lisp: > > "In Emacs, the current position of the cursor is called point. The expression (point) returns a number that tells you where the cursor is located as a count of the number of characters from the beginning of the buffer up to point." Historical note: Emacs did not invent this terminology. When I used TECO commands were explained / defined in terms of "point". For all I know TECO may in turn have inherited that terminology from even earlier editors (c.f. MIT's ITS or its PDP-1). /john