From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: John Yates Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: On the subject of Git, Bazaar, and the future of Emacs development Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2013 14:32:19 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87hajxqlly.fsf@yandex.ru> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1364409151 16552 80.91.229.3 (27 Mar 2013 18:32:31 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2013 18:32:31 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Richard Stallman , Emacs developers To: Juanma Barranquero Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Mar 27 19:32:58 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UKv9c-0007TN-DN for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 27 Mar 2013 19:32:56 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:47065 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UKv9E-00045S-Dx for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 27 Mar 2013 14:32:32 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:47495) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UKv99-00045G-Bn for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 27 Mar 2013 14:32:30 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UKv96-0007SG-Lv for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 27 Mar 2013 14:32:27 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-wi0-x229.google.com ([2a00:1450:400c:c05::229]:50695) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UKv92-0007RC-Rz; Wed, 27 Mar 2013 14:32:20 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-wi0-f169.google.com with SMTP id c10so2658680wiw.2 for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2013 11:32:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=fevw+78vDDBeBgJz6f4wUZQHfczR7yRHBq4LkhkOfC0=; b=Syvv7elNNPEHI5HyVnUpwCB2Fvf7w/g90wH4Sotpcgx7+PxVQPSn5uYHjIZ/NwxaYS JNntXXQCtcG2DvADkgtwaeEDvCF5onDaWo8wecEgq/R6Z0uF54iQuGlVJK70KUU2zg2O B0B7/Jn1dDCXAjnm5N4uetHpcbrXnrEdaqZ64CZOWqxis1Yqg+XWjpiYrw2u2/kuC5xa HJZI5uUsUE8L69hHFVpBvA821b3qbHIB+8pRVnyX6k75nlA/Q1moWJ1cBULytk8KPK+/ GVZbknmohErMrt4TGxIGdDCF3FxXaND18+pU81l5dAK5b/JffQZdtjXHeALz/DGJiVsM uSDA== X-Received: by 10.194.110.136 with SMTP id ia8mr33502917wjb.58.1364409139406; Wed, 27 Mar 2013 11:32:19 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.194.179.133 with HTTP; Wed, 27 Mar 2013 11:32:19 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-Google-Sender-Auth: EDfeKOrm41s3-8fL_C8ZXD2DzGk X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:400c:c05::229 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:158319 Archived-At: I am surprised no one has mentioned in this thread the parade of erstwhile bzr developers (including Martin Pool) who have admitted on the bzr mailing list that they have abandoned the project and why. Richard, can I assume that you are familiar with at least some of these posting? /john On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 1:56 PM, Juanma Barranquero wrote: > On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 6:15 PM, Richard Stallman wrote: > >> The point is, I am trying to determine whether Bzr is effectively >> maintained or not. > > The answer to that question should be obvious by looking at the public > repository and developers' list. Perhaps they are maintaing it > internally, or perhaps they intend to maintain it again in the (near > or not-so-near) future. But right now, and for quite a while, the > answer to "is effectively maintained?" cannot be other than "not". > > J >