From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: John Yates Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Licence of ts-comint Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2017 16:16:31 -0400 Message-ID: References: <1502621936.3273210.1071832168.58C017A8@webmail.messagingengine.com> <41f58047-20ea-09dd-984e-95c688576397@cs.ucla.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="f403045f286079a72205575d458d" X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1503433071 18128 195.159.176.226 (22 Aug 2017 20:17:51 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2017 20:17:51 +0000 (UTC) Cc: John Wiegley , Jean-Christophe Helary , jostein@kjonigsen.net, Richard Stallman , Emacs developers To: Paul Eggert Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Aug 22 22:17:47 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dkFcL-0004G2-Vy for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 22 Aug 2017 22:17:42 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52503 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dkFcS-0002Vl-DA for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 22 Aug 2017 16:17:48 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:52727) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dkFbI-0002To-58 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Aug 2017 16:16:37 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dkFbH-0000Dl-9I for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Aug 2017 16:16:36 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-ua0-x22b.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400c:c08::22b]:34093) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dkFbF-0000D7-DN; Tue, 22 Aug 2017 16:16:33 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-ua0-x22b.google.com with SMTP id d12so18451440uag.1; Tue, 22 Aug 2017 13:16:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc; bh=fOgHiMbdKio9bmUsJwqG3jqEnPxkzTa+hgnBCOzojZw=; b=KqPtzwO2dDyO7DNtbg1GRnszgXWwWLuSaBJrxCncYGTONOHZNcYPCwdomlOZCPr6FP I/gmUoHZdZUFDI6zZ30QlJ+/AZJp+L2+zRqyyEUZ43wXuuDZZP18S6kqO4mv68ox1Zt8 4GzQXb4POBjA+/BuX+vSHBsV75X1neJP61RiP8+DYasIXvZ97xuHS+VdRpYL3P7r+6Ym AUGgzcfalY4WHxQRUVZXsU9sYx/grBOCFRU1MdLi3htfRt5dRUIy3s0rGIatQ0Nr16b8 f39Ii4csAYkG3MxwzAjHUycH7pVMi89Gop0TxiLwaCZZygrCUBkEuHwOiJvo9X7PemQ0 W6Zg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=fOgHiMbdKio9bmUsJwqG3jqEnPxkzTa+hgnBCOzojZw=; b=ePy55MfqSQpsfZhyNC6e/onsogFux/UbHNFTtY/J0squLxjB2DB640wZxOICh9V+E7 DoOzQbpgtl/eCUJ4JlbN5eJFUhR0I2H3PoFKJF+BG0UL3Mc9URZI+1r+5d/uxX1jprql AMkWWzwxHDeyPViyyCw2DNvP1i7QqGOpLMGWQIHizsvdWclAgKNizfIDltUdlNsA6h3Z D+ncE8Q5bdkWwI6kXM/Qx7/OULED4u3Bz4OSs51fxNZ4LgooygTKZS80cc1mKe1tfqG0 rztl5hzFW/qeptrI2kkovxlnUK/9ZOG9zcQ0Nu39HATxwTKw7LmUVJmO2H6o5vBKaxRZ agog== X-Gm-Message-State: AHYfb5izLSz4JvAN1T7ZNeag6AadJp6ynQ8HktPmpsjmD6Ui4GCPX6f7 iXM8cxRHEVT9DSlNPCj2Z6X3o8yTOQ== X-Received: by 10.176.95.85 with SMTP id z21mr197608uah.183.1503432992727; Tue, 22 Aug 2017 13:16:32 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.31.158.202 with HTTP; Tue, 22 Aug 2017 13:16:31 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <41f58047-20ea-09dd-984e-95c688576397@cs.ucla.edu> X-Google-Sender-Auth: LkTHqe7ePP4rzN0S58qNOodNQJQ X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:400c:c08::22b X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:217699 Archived-At: --f403045f286079a72205575d458d Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =E2=80=8B =E2=80=8B On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 1:54 PM, Paul Eggert wrote: > > On 08/22/2017 10:33 AM, John Yates wrote: >> >> Reminds me of the importance a population >> experiencing widespread famine =E2=80=8B =E2=80=8B attaches =E2=80=8B to >> freedom of the press. >> > a free press and other democratic institutions help combat the threat of famine. For more, please see Amartya Sen's writings on the topic. Sen was inspired by the Bengal famine of 1943, which killed three million people =E2=80=8B I am well aware that a free press is one means of buttressing good governance. I am unfamiliar with Amartya Sen's writing nor the history of the Indian famine of 1943. I note that you wrote "help combat the threat of" not "solve" famine.=E2=80= =8B I would =E2=80=8Bhave been surprised if you =E2=80=8Battempted to argue that parents =E2=80=8B desperately=E2=80=8B trying to =E2=80=8Bprovide=E2=80=8B for starving children demonstrate much awareness or interest in the presence or lack of a free press. =E2=80=8B=E2=80=8B Perhaps I should have invoked Maslov's hierarchy of needs. =E2=80=8B --f403045f286079a72205575d458d Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 1:54 PM, Paul Eggert <eggert@cs.ucla.edu> wrote:
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<= span style=3D"font-family:arial,sans-serif">> a free press and other dem= ocratic institutions help combat the threat of famine. For more, please see= Amartya Sen's writings on the topic.
=C2=A0Sen was inspired by the Bengal famine of 1943, which kill= ed three million people
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I am well aware that a= free press is one means of buttressing good governance.=C2=A0 I am unfamil= iar with Amartya Sen's writing nor the history of the Indian famine of = 1943.

I = note that you wrote "help combat the threat of" not "solve&q= uot; famine.=E2=80=8B =C2=A0
I would
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=C2=A0for = starving children demonstrate much awareness or interest in the presence or= lack of a free press.
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Perhaps I = should have invoked Maslov's hierarchy of needs.
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