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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:285814 Archived-At: On Wed, Feb 2, 2022 at 4:04 PM Phillip Lord wrote: > > If I remember correctly, this is because the msys dependency tree is > not totally reliable. I noticed :P Locally I've been investigating by comparing results from several different sources including ProcessExplorer, ldd, ntldd and cygcheck. (To get recursive checking with ldd I wrote a rather ugly Perl script.) Then I'm looking at the documentation from MSYS website (one-by-one by hand) to figure out which ones are optional. > > TLS should work if at all possible. The tests that I have for a > functional windows Emacs (in etc/w32-feature.el) are better than nothing > but don't test whether emacs is working just whether it thinks that it > should be. > ACK, and thanks for the nudge on using etc/w32-feature.el to test the installed versions. FTR, as I hack on the scripts I've been testing locally running both scripts then by opening Emacs from the ~/emacs-build/install/emacs-28.0.91/bin folder and then "doing suff". For example opening a PNG. Then I check (with ProcessExplorer) that Emacs is loading (e.g.) libpng16-16.dll from the Emacs bin folder (and not from the msys bin or some other place).