From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: steckerhalter Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Builtin packages not detected/listed in Emacs trunk Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2014 23:38:56 +0100 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7bf0cc541c814404f59e40ed X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1395959946 28372 80.91.229.3 (27 Mar 2014 22:39:06 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2014 22:39:06 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Mar 27 23:39:15 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WTIx6-0002Ah-DX for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 27 Mar 2014 23:39:12 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56287 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WTIx6-00029j-0l for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 27 Mar 2014 18:39:12 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:37451) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WTIww-00029a-Qm for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 27 Mar 2014 18:39:08 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WTIwq-0007jO-RZ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 27 Mar 2014 18:39:02 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-ve0-f181.google.com ([209.85.128.181]:37799) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WTIwq-0007jK-NY for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 27 Mar 2014 18:38:56 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-ve0-f181.google.com with SMTP id oy12so5000719veb.12 for ; Thu, 27 Mar 2014 15:38:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=3Z9ZQtL0/ZcGr8+G3/9MMg4InZtwXirA2GzDsT8DT0s=; b=gbnEjAOGuvTFonOR5YKIr3EjfYnHjxg+MMimNoFMxEUdErn6LVVJPFZ9o+iPieAvJG tzN+noCl3ph4b4B+R9HeZ/AsLqdirOKGheoe7jxfCZdNITFpRzh3Oew6ZVVJCuE59cB9 4l8B/pqpNFElv/cbbcpDgL4IL+YGRQe8TXjr2yt8zCMGVPzwG0eriivtDcA2aE9PIT7x xSihzxxHR3rqEhjCOQR1b+BrBvL63eRSC1kpmndnRovVtQ5NMkiLi80ZeRZIiuI9sLm7 vwV79c022eI7KLUfX5s7oxHm1qIvH3yxOUgELqovLrNTgAFl0QpENHJO9rfKExPUwbCP hq0A== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmUJ6eiZfUP3awR+SWH2u3dCBlWJCV1hvZvG6VPEnLpTVNVfEZ3yLjR6zHOfTRGdl3TWGiL X-Received: by 10.59.7.102 with SMTP id db6mr3803974ved.17.1395959936083; Thu, 27 Mar 2014 15:38:56 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.58.198.43 with HTTP; Thu, 27 Mar 2014 15:38:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [46.126.219.77] In-Reply-To: X-Google-Sender-Auth: AEjrZvejDA4yjAmPuaYIr8XmDtQ X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 209.85.128.181 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:171054 Archived-At: --047d7bf0cc541c814404f59e40ed Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 10:19 PM, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > If you check list-packages you will also not find thingatpt in the list > of > > builtins in 24.4 which cannot be correct, right? > > Indeed, we don't list all the packages, since most of them have been > builtin since before ELPA even existed, so for an ELPA package to say > that it requires thingatpt is kind of pointless. It maybe pointless. It's just that the behavior has been changed from 24.3 to 24.4 list-packages showed all package--builtins before. Now it only shows the ones with a version. And any package that has been requiring such an internal library will fail to install with the new Emacs version. cheers steckerhalter --047d7bf0cc541c814404f59e40ed Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On T= hu, Mar 27, 2014 at 10:19 PM, Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontrea= l.ca> wrote:
> If you check list-packa= ges you will also not find thingatpt in the list of
> builtins in 24.4 which cannot be correct, right?

Indeed, we don't list all the packages, since most of them have b= een
builtin since before ELPA even existed, so for an ELPA package to say
that it requires thingatpt is kind of pointless.=A0

It maybe pointless. It's just that the behavior has been chang= ed from 24.3 to 24.4

list-packages showed all pack= age--builtins before. Now it only shows the ones with a version. And any pa= ckage that has been requiring such an internal library will fail to install= with the new Emacs version.

cheers
steckerhalter
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