From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?UTF-8?B?QWxleCBCZW5uw6ll?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs Webapp/Plugin Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2013 11:03:19 +0100 Message-ID: References: <87394cpxm5.fsf@friendface.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me> <878ve3h90z.fsf@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1380881008 20615 80.91.229.3 (4 Oct 2013 10:03:28 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2013 10:03:28 +0000 (UTC) Cc: William Gardella , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Paul Michael Reilly Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Oct 04 12:03:33 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VS2EO-0003pl-Bk for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 04 Oct 2013 12:03:32 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:47098 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VS2EO-00042K-0j for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 04 Oct 2013 06:03:32 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:39944) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VS2EH-00041J-Bk for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 04 Oct 2013 06:03:29 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VS2ED-0000gp-96 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 04 Oct 2013 06:03:25 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-oa0-f51.google.com ([209.85.219.51]:59200) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VS2ED-0000ga-45 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 04 Oct 2013 06:03:21 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-oa0-f51.google.com with SMTP id h16so3699356oag.10 for ; Fri, 04 Oct 2013 03:03:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=HkC7NFCtdvEoy5t6yd4bryNE/rnkmADbvrUV/zRJsH4=; b=OwLbH/M6sUG4igAlUdme5DjoNW5RqVquZxWT+y7fdzDApU2DmlcdD9e+yXP5yJHXis IbgMMH2xhFyavYg5R9/9cWNGkjOcRvq8VybYuTHnlkYbK1n8T6NV1BBGt+WF0gSvmNfB luJNeSFBJHXwYohvOcMUZAatcl49JlgGzXm0pv7L4HL8MoE8OyovXYFVBuiTnbCbAQ/d PqZvtmdxgMCOaWOQ7NkwQdp09+gz2x5N3yoDUcKKiSENNk+ZPze/+8UBECUoaSpJJ8lp kWnChIMpAj1GkjSiJD/wtXwa5eN6f9yBn89POCy8HVXdNXmWYVvEnJUqpfTHUbMadbwD q1lA== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmmftS4psFtaAVeCWzRS/0qJZKrIFdzXG8DgUMfB/bmUtoEAa+RQiIhrRsQOTmwnlYKcKgj X-Received: by 10.60.116.230 with SMTP id jz6mr20809082oeb.21.1380880999970; Fri, 04 Oct 2013 03:03:19 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.76.0.165 with HTTP; Fri, 4 Oct 2013 03:03:19 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-Google-Sender-Auth: L1DyUAlkJb9lfLz1ZIZyCorgxAg X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 209.85.219.51 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:163842 Archived-At: On 29 July 2012 11:53, Paul Michael Reilly wrote: > On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 5:26 PM, William Gardella > wrote: > > Again, my goal is to have a seamless, robust Emacs experience when editing > or viewing files in a Web constrained device. Nothing exemplifies the > experience I am after more than visiting an org-mode file on my server > directly or via something like Google Drive or Drop Box and having the file > handler be Emacs, i.e. I visit https://my.server.com/foo.org and rather than > see the browser display something akin to "Sorry, I don't know how to deal > with that, Jim", I want the opened tab to display what org-mode would > display and keystrokes in the tab to be interpreted as org-mode would, by an > Emacs instance handling the file. Sorry to jump in on an old discussion but you may be interested in: https://github.com/stsquad/emacs-chromebooks Which needs a dev-mode ChromeOS and Crouton install but attempts to give you that experience. At the moment the development version of Edit with Emacs allows a "foreground" message to be sent to Emacs to bring it to the front of the display (handily bound to a keyboard shortcut). > Using an ssh type mechanism is neither seamless, robust nor practical. > >> Other than that, I think the cause is basically hopeless; a Chromebook >> is a Tivoized device. > > > My cause is not hopeless, I am convinced. I've never used a Tivo so I do > not understand the analogy. Also, I use the Chromebook as a name to > characterize an experience: where a browser is the main (possibly sole) > application and all computing is done via URL references. This computing > model is important to me because it enormously simplifies my computing > environment and allows me to focus on hacking rather than system > administration. It also allows me to use commodity hardware, although I > will be the first to admit that the initial Chromebook devices were > underpowered and less than useful. On my MacBook Air, I basically use > Chrome and Emacs, which was the catalyst to asking the question: is there a > way to combine the two seamlessly? I cannot imagine Emacs ever being a > Chrome replacement but I can imagine Emacs handling a file in a Chrome tab. > Now I just need to find a practical way to make it happen. :-) It's what I'm aiming for. I have a Pixel and I use Chrome for all my web browsing and have an Emacs session running which I can bring to the fore to deal with email (mu4e) and development work. The only current wrinkle is a bit of a pain if the Chromebook suspends while Emacs is in the full frame confuses the Aura WM. This usually entails entering the console crouton shell and deleting the frame by hand. However I'm working on better integrating with ChromeOS power management to auto delete the frame when the system suspends. -- Alex, homepage: http://www.bennee.com/~alex/