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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:269963 Archived-At: On Thu, May 27, 2021 at 12:22 PM Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > If the delta in seconds is the same, it probably means the variations > in total time are independent of the issue we are discussing. The > face merging is entirely in platform-independent code, which knows > nothing about the actual writing to the glass. Yeah, I think that's my point. %'s probably don't matter, it's the seconds that matter. I only saw %s from you, which is why I was asking. > As for times: do you want an optimized or an unoptimized build? Does > it matter if it's Emacs 27 or 28? And does it matter that my builds > are 32-bit builds --with-wide-int, which slows down Emacs by about > 30%? When I know which numbers you want to see, I will produce them. > (Of course, it is easier for me to produce numbers from a build I > already have, otherwise I'd need to build it first.) All my recent times are on unoptimized and on Emacs 28. I'm building the default architecture on macOS, which I imagine is 64 bit.