From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Tim Visher Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: preferring mercurial Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2014 08:11:29 -0500 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1389273141 11049 80.91.229.3 (9 Jan 2014 13:12:21 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2014 13:12:21 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Neal Becker Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jan 09 14:12:29 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1W1FPM-0006Ky-CH for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 09 Jan 2014 14:12:24 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51883 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W1FPL-0005Md-Rv for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 09 Jan 2014 08:12:23 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:55201) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W1FPE-0005ME-PD for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 09 Jan 2014 08:12:21 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W1FP8-0008SE-86 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 09 Jan 2014 08:12:16 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-qa0-x230.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400d:c00::230]:53590) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W1FP8-0008S6-3K for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 09 Jan 2014 08:12:10 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-qa0-f48.google.com with SMTP id i13so2860953qae.35 for ; Thu, 09 Jan 2014 05:12:09 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=p0eJfSAYVQ/9FzmeiHsrw5sZqaYh+BJu2D17s4D3WnI=; b=UqA6GgU2QZMLIg4WyMpsAiOTPjJ5CuducjGHVMT7CaRIKRoGQLYq00u8fqpVk3rzqX 33NQ5o7NHKp9v1PRn/CL+IUHINn4j9if4W/ELvsH9J9zmBTO+P4QeT/e+fn527rcU8F+ /4Mn0pPfH7UTN8R7/D3+UYp66aOPcCKt8tFyoFJ8IxGitkHTjbDj5TUYcARvz/t/844x 8uh/qwrocrsiZDUnKkQVeoeU3MSqLCginHHrQCnaQyvuwv2IT14k1X+whyAIwQBiyO4+ 01QS77QaqvGv5QQkqHWZgpjb5eU3PTpJ8qEkvquzd3MtF8h6QU3ERHsbPnliywUr29x6 gCdA== X-Received: by 10.229.194.1 with SMTP id dw1mr7474452qcb.20.1389273129279; Thu, 09 Jan 2014 05:12:09 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 10.140.16.206 with HTTP; Thu, 9 Jan 2014 05:11:29 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:400d:c00::230 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:167898 Archived-At: Hi Neal, On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 7:35 AM, Neal Becker wrote: > I don't understand the git momentum. I've use hg heavily, and am generally > happy with it. At this point, as esr has said on multiple occasions, git's momentum just is what it is. It one like Java did. It's probably time to just make your peace with that. > Every time I have to use git, I have a terrible time. I find it vastly more > complicated than hg. The docs (in the form of man pages) I find never answer my > questions. Each one seems to cover 100 different topics, variations and corner > cases. Trying to read this requires a vast new vocabulary or arcane terms. I've used git since pretty early on and so I don't have beginners mind here but I'd say that if you were to give it time and loose some of your assumptions, git's ui would start to make more sense to you. I don't know if it's Stockholm Syndrome talking or not, but having used it for a number of years almost exclusively it's ui and terminology make perfect sense to me. > hg also has tortoisehg, which is a very nice mature gui. There is nothing like > that for git. I have found 1 or 2 guis that are extremely limited in function. Sounds like you're on windows, then. Have you given tortoisegit or Git Cheetah a shot? Back when I was into GUIs, I remember tortoisegit being at least as nice as tortoisesvn (which I believe was the main progenitor of the tortoise-x naming convention). https://code.google.com/p/tortoisegit/ https://github.com/msysgit/Git-Cheetah -- In Christ, Timmy V. http://blog.twonegatives.com/ http://five.sentenc.es/ -- Spend less time on mail