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From: Jason Vas Dias <jason.vas.dias@ptt.ie>
To: "Björn Bidar" <bjorn.bidar@thaodan.de>
Cc: Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>, Jason Vas Dias <jvd@ptt.ie>,
	jason.vas.dias@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: suggestionss for best 100% Elisp Oauth2 module(s) & config for 29.4 MA-GNUS + mailx + sendmmail please ?
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2024 06:19:46 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAHT0zoOGRTEHkAGjJww48xvtABzC8cnYZYd58ocr5r1kxK4Fyg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <66a72046.050a0220.2c7b2c.56dfSMTPIN_ADDED_BROKEN@mx.google.com>

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Sorry about even mentioning such horrors as MS-365 and Chrome and Google
WorkSpace and  Oauth2, but
I HAVE to use them for work, unfortunately.
All I want is to be able to Send & Read Email with Emacs & MA-GNUS & Linux
mailx / sendmail,
 that is all I am asking about .
MS-365's Outlook IMAP stopped working because it won't support OAuth2 , but
its SMTP2 works with encrypted password & sendmail config patches ;
Neither Google's IMAP nor its SMTP2 work for non-WorkSpace accounts, for
WorkSpace accounts, SMTP2 with password works until Sept 2024 -
this is what I am trying to handle.
I'd prefer to be able to continue reading & sending email with MA-GNUS &
Emacs, but Google & MS-365 make it ever more difficult.
If I have to support Oauth2 in Emacs, then I'd like to use a single daemon
and Oauth2 proxy for all of Emacs, Chrome, and Firefox,
all of which I MUST use , since only google-chrome-unstable allows me to
ScreenShare with Teams and Firefox Developer Edition is
better for Outlook (doesn't crash) . I am investigating Keycloak , an open
source Oauth2 server ... anyone got Emacs to use an Oauth2 Proxy ?
 Best Regards,
Jason

On Mon, 29 Jul 2024 at 05:53, Björn Bidar <bjorn.bidar@thaodan.de> wrote:

> Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org> writes:
>
> > [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider    ]]]
> > [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies,     ]]]
> > [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]]
> >
> >       > Please could anyone recommend any good shared Ouath2 Daemon that
> >       > all of Emacs MA-GNUS / IMAP + sendmail + firefox + chrome +
> >       > Google/MS-365 SMTP2+Outh2 could use  ?
> >
> > Asking for advice about using Google services is off topic for
> > emacs-devel.  Asking about support for nonfree programs such as Chrome
> > is worse than merely off topic.
>
> How is getting OAuth to work offtopic? You seem to overread that that
> they were talking about getting OAuth to work and not just about Google
> Authentication or similar.
>
> Missing OAuth support has been an issue in other cases, e.g. using Gnus
> for work or school. Many institutions restrict the use of their accounts
> to OAuth or even use whitelists.
>
> Also I want add that we seem to tolerate packages supporting for non-free
> services
> in Elpa such as those supporting exchange, kinda a double standard.
>
> Br,
>
> Björn
>

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-07-29  5:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-07-27  2:08 suggestionss for best 100% Elisp Oauth2 module(s) & config for 29.4 MA-GNUS + mailx + sendmmail please ? Jason Vas Dias
2024-07-27 21:54 ` James Thomas
2024-07-29 21:31   ` James Thomas
2024-07-29  2:38 ` Richard Stallman
2024-07-29  4:53   ` Björn Bidar
     [not found]   ` <66a72046.050a0220.2c7b2c.56dfSMTPIN_ADDED_BROKEN@mx.google.com>
2024-07-29  5:19     ` Jason Vas Dias [this message]
2024-07-30 12:18       ` Jason Vas Dias
2024-07-30 12:39       ` pinmacs

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