From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Bob Bobeck Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Move to git is not imminent - esr is just tired of talking about it Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2014 20:19:57 -0500 Message-ID: References: <20140106165108.B6BF4380865@snark.thyrsus.com> <1389030588.11337.48.camel@Iris> <52CAF35F.9070005@dancol.org> <877gac27uk.fsf@floss.red-bean.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1389143998 23912 80.91.229.3 (8 Jan 2014 01:19:58 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2014 01:19:58 +0000 (UTC) Cc: esr@thyrsus.com, Juanma Barranquero , emacs-devel@gnu.org, kfogel@red-bean.com, jordigh@octave.org, dancol@dancol.org To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jan 08 02:20:05 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1W0hoS-0002Wy-9t for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 08 Jan 2014 02:20:04 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44349 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W0hoR-0005Je-Rn for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 07 Jan 2014 20:20:03 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:48656) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W0hoP-0005JT-8Y for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Jan 2014 20:20:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W0hoO-00046k-9y for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Jan 2014 20:20:01 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-we0-x244.google.com ([2a00:1450:400c:c03::244]:60430) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W0hoM-00046W-UY; Tue, 07 Jan 2014 20:19:59 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-we0-f196.google.com with SMTP id p61so137214wes.11 for ; Tue, 07 Jan 2014 17:19:57 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=Bdg409yoNN8e+GrVTN2/dzZc22hYSLpK13v36/atitI=; b=K++CbK/iqunJVvkKEYIFHa6y6AZuDdIJQL+o6rVjT3BBlO4w6XQmdhZkjggidvwtZs iMsnaixGFnp/E1Y865/GzovXiYYm8gu/beYxHWyMgslzhIBXoN5RkadMU14EwSFBhhAf 2BA84q5JHNSol7h5cakjRDaw2I6yDTkGVs1hHMRDgToO57Dv6rWOEHtckrMb2iXwXHyu QSssgkF7VLTqemodTp2dHpMqfQLTO+YCcfLzw3AhAbUKcULYikRPQzuGyo56EEys1RCD /5h85KfAzi9w4cVVTyAPZyBKPYcxHnj5bJ6fxi1xkh2FIOr/RLh83kkioMgTY72lIRAx NZfg== X-Received: by 10.180.9.209 with SMTP id c17mr12289571wib.13.1389143997500; Tue, 07 Jan 2014 17:19:57 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 10.227.216.2 with HTTP; Tue, 7 Jan 2014 17:19:57 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:400c:c03::244 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:167687 Archived-At: There's too much talk and not enough hacking. Can you all stop flirting and just fork the damn project already if that's what it takes? Call it esrmacs or whatever the hell, let's just cut this turd and move on. On 1/7/14, Richard Stallman wrote: > [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] > [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] > [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > Let's not argue about whether ESR should or should not have > volunteered. He's clearly acting in good faith. The real question is > whether and when to change VC system, and that is for Stefan to > decide. He is the Emacs maintainer. > > If he decides to move to git, he will also decide whether and how much > to accept ESR's help. > > -- > Dr Richard Stallman > President, Free Software Foundation > 51 Franklin St > Boston MA 02110 > USA > www.fsf.org www.gnu.org > Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software. > Use Ekiga or an ordinary phone call. > > > >