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That's all we know. X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=_AUTOLEARN X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:250876 Archived-At: > > It was done with Adobe Sign, > > I am not familiar with that, but if it comes from Adobe, I expect > it is a nonfree program. Is that correct? > > Overall, I agree with Joao that the mechanics of signing is a > secondary part of the issue. But we have to apply our general > moral principles there. > > We consider nonfree programs an injustice. > We cannot suggest using one of them -- it would conflict > with our principles. > > Maybe there is free software to do this job. > Would you like to check and see? Please, I'm not suggesting to use Adobe Sign. It looks like you missed my original message: >It was done with Adobe Sign, basically it displayed a PDF to me in my >browser and I could sign by writing on my keyboard (displayed using a >"hand-written" font), draw with my mouse, or import an image of my >signature (or even use my mobile device). >I don't think we need that much options (just type on keyboard), but >surely something similar is doable using only GNU tools no? If you can >reduce the "print - sign - scan - email" cycle to "browse online and >click" I suspect a lot more people would agree to bother with the >copyright assignments. Hope it clears up the confusion. Philippe