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That's all we know. X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=_AUTOLEARN X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:250882 Archived-At: > > Please, I said 3 times already that YOU JUST TYPE YOUR NAME ON YOUR > > KEYBOARD, or attach an image. Yes, that's how I did in in Adobe Sign > > (just typed "Philippe Vaucher" on my keyboard). The only thing it did > > is the name was displayed using a hand-written font. Surely this > > cannot be complicated to duplicate. I already said all this. > > OK, that is very convenient for the signer, but how can the recipient > of such a signed document verify this signature? If it is taken at > face value, I can=E2=80=99t see anything that prevents an adversary from > typing your name and signing away some of your possessions. > > With hand-written signatures, the assumption is that your signature is > sufficiently complex that another person cannot duplicate it in a way > that a graphologist wouldn=E2=80=99t detect. With GPG, the assumption is = that > you control your private key and that it cannot be brute-forced in a > realistic time frame. As with hand-written signature, you are supposed to check the identify of the signer prior to that. Electronically, that means receive a private link through your verified email that only you can access. Philippe