>
> > I never coded
> > with clojure, but my argument for these helpers is that in code we do
> > string manipulations all the time, they are trivial to write, so why not
> > have trivial helpers.
>
> The criticism would be exactly the same: if they're trivial, why have
> them in the library at all.
>

For me the reason would be: to focus on actual code instead of silly tasks
like computing indices and making code more verbose than necessary also
while avoiding silly bugs.



> > I usually don't care about these extra
> > function calls, what matters more to me is how beautiful the code looks
> > and how readable it is.
>
> Often, I'd agree. But the tradeoffs when creating the standard library
> of the language are somewhat different, IMHO.
>

Interesting point. I want to believe that we can have convenience without
sacrificing performance, maybe by coding these in C? Just a thought, not an
actual proposal.


> >  From your side, I understand that your definition of the minimal set is
> > much thiner, and maybe what would help is to give the complete list of
> > the functions you find superfluous and why (list at
> > https://github.com/magnars/s.el so far you mention `s-prepend` and
> > `s-append`). For example I'd disagree if you said `s-left` and `s-right`
> > are not useful to import because it can be done with `substring`.
>
>
> I will respectfully refuse this invitation: I have other work to do.

No worries. I think I now have enough information to propose something
concrete.

Thanks for your input!