Re: Imports / inclusion of s.el into Emacs

[Philippe Vaucher <philippe.vaucher@gmail.com>]

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>> Anyway, you try to focus on the weak points of the arguments. I
understand,
>> it's a natural defense mechanism.

> Here it is again.

> Psychologizing your opponent is dangerous, may be insulting and won't
> bring the quest forward.

Oops, seems I derailed again. Thanks for pointing these out, it helps me
notice.

I have problems when someone looks to me like putting a lot of efforts into
not seeing where we are talking from, and only pointing things from
their perspective (all this while, I think, we try to understand theirs).
But I do realise now that it's just myself who has an understanding
problem: if I truly understood the other person I'd not be surprised. What
would work wonders for me is to say something like "I understand your
position and why you think it's better but for me it's useless because...".

It looks like most of our missunderstandings come from the fact that I
expect others to be familiar with a lot of concepts or how a significant
portion of the developers in the world work & function. Based on previous
messages I discovered that's not the case at all, and it looks like this
community is sometimes a bit "unaware" of how things work for a lot of
people "outside". I'm sorry if that sounds offensive, I just don't know how
to say it. I really don't mean this in a bad way, maybe it's because you
know of these other ways but decided the Emacs way is superior and with
time you forgot a bit? More specifically I was surprised to have to explain
why namespaces have advantages, why tutorials & stackoverflow has a lot of
success. From my perspective these are obvious and thus it's hard for me to
realise when someone simply needs basic explanations about these.

Philippe

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