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Location : parse_addr6(), p0f-client.c:67 X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:4864:20::134 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:248299 Archived-At: --0000000000004ca4ae05a492026e Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > > If you think the tangent is an important and pertinent issue, please > bring it up as a separate discussion, with a Subject field to fit, > > This whole thread has managed to violate about half of the guidelines on > https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/kind-communication.html ; I hope we can do > better in the future. > It did but I think every of the actors involved realised and fixed their mistakes, this is a good sign. Hopefully in the future I won't reproduce my errors will try to make it very clear between what is real proposition for now and what is just exploration of an idea for later. Philippe --0000000000004ca4ae05a492026e Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
> If you think the tangent is an important and pertin= ent issue, please bring it up as a separate discussion, with a Subject fiel= d to fit,

This whole thread has managed to violate about half of the guidelines on https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/kind-communicatio= n.html ; I hope we can do better in the future.
It did but I think every of the actors involved realised and f= ixed their mistakes, this is a good sign.

Hopefull= y in the future I won't reproduce my errors will try to make it very cl= ear between what is real proposition for now and what is just exploration o= f an idea for later.

Philippe
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