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That's all we know. X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=_AUTOLEARN X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:248944 Archived-At: > I haven't seen a clear proposal. And I don't > know that anything has been rejected. The > discussion has been rather mixed and somewhat > unclear, IMO. > > I suggested that any proposed name changes > (including aliases) be submitted (and tracked) > as bug/enhancement requests. > > And I'm not aware that anything has been rejected. > If you submit them as a bug report (or bug reports, > if they're not very related) then it will be clear > if the bug gets fixed, stalls, or is closed as > won't fix. Well I thought I did a concrete proposal on `string-` and I'm thinking that if I made the same proposal throught the bug tracker I'd get the same answers. Anyway, I'll try if you tell me that's how I'd do it. I'm a bit reluctant because I hoped that we'd do this all together here and reach some form of consensus with rough guidelines like "yes I think for A, B, & C it makes sense, for D & E not so much" and thus the real concrete proposal would already be pretty accurate. I'll make a bug report anyway and we'll see how it goes. Should it be already patches or just a message with "new aliases / new api" sections like I did a few emails above in that thread?