From: Philippe Vaucher <philippe.vaucher@gmail.com>
To: Michael Albinus <michael.albinus@gmx.de>
Cc: Philipp Stephani <p.stephani2@gmail.com>,
Emacs developers <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Remote asynchronous processes
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2020 22:32:38 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAGK7Mr6HtGjkz+W18Y64UMxZK8M9vtrj8kF4DODTJfaOS1MdRQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87tv1nwuv4.fsf@gmx.de>
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> Hi,
>
Hello,
> One of the reasons is, that Tramp opens first a shell on the remote
> host, performs sanity checks, and runs the command after that. Well, I
> cannot change this in general; the sanity checks have been added due to
> feedback from users.
>
It'd be great to have the list of checks that are done and the reasons to
see if they still make sense nowadays. Maybe these checks were added to
safe-guard against silly terminals/implementations but can be ignored in
recent times.
> One idea to change the situation is, to remove all sanity checks from
> make-process.
>
> This would improve performance significantly. The drawback is, that
> Tramp does not perform convenience checks, like password handling.
>
> start-file-process would not be changed, and it behaves like before.
I'm not clear on make-process vs start-file-process usage, but I assume the
former is used by API developers and the later is called by TRAMP, so we
still get the sanity checks for normal TRAMP usage?
If you ask _my_ preferences I'd remove the sanity checks and require sane
terminals, maybe offer some tramp-sane-terminal-p that could run the sanity
checks for debugging. That or cache the sanity checks so you only run them
once on the initial connection but never later on. I understand my position
is probably not everyone's position tho :-)
Kind regards,
Philippe
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-04-13 20:32 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-04-13 10:19 Remote asynchronous processes Michael Albinus
2020-04-13 20:32 ` Philippe Vaucher [this message]
2020-04-14 9:03 ` Michael Albinus
2020-04-14 12:34 ` Philippe Vaucher
2020-04-14 14:28 ` Michael Albinus
2020-08-04 17:00 ` Philipp Stephani
2020-04-14 14:48 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-14 15:30 ` Michael Albinus
2020-08-04 17:01 ` Philipp Stephani
2020-08-04 16:56 ` Philipp Stephani
2020-08-04 17:35 ` Michael Albinus
2020-08-10 14:42 ` Philipp Stephani
2020-05-06 11:59 ` Michael Albinus
2020-08-04 16:48 ` Philipp Stephani
2020-08-04 17:31 ` Michael Albinus
2020-08-10 14:56 ` Philipp Stephani
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2020-07-29 16:58 Felipe Lema
2020-07-31 10:22 ` Michael Albinus
2020-08-04 12:27 ` Michael Albinus
2020-08-04 16:06 ` Felipe Lema
2020-08-06 19:08 ` Sean Whitton
2020-08-09 7:22 ` Michael Albinus
2020-08-09 14:47 ` Philipp Stephani
2020-08-09 17:06 ` Michael Albinus
2020-08-12 10:46 ` Michael Albinus
2020-08-21 22:28 ` Sean Whitton
2020-08-07 16:28 ` Philipp Stephani
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