From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Philippe Vaucher Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [ELPA] New package: transient Date: Sat, 2 May 2020 16:26:57 +0200 Message-ID: References: <87368npxw4.fsf@bernoul.li> <87v9ljo5d0.fsf@bernoul.li> <87ftcnxu5m.fsf@bernoul.li> <83y2qezlpd.fsf@gnu.org> <83tv12zjx1.fsf@gnu.org> <20200429101755.GF24737@tuxteam.de> <838sicw4do.fsf@gnu.org> <83zhaqu89z.fsf@gnu.org> <83sggiu2p9.fsf@gnu.org> <83r1w2s9wi.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000abd78705a4ab18f3" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="24095"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: tomas@tuxteam.de, Emacs developers , Stefan Monnier , Richard Stallman To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat May 02 16:28:00 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jUt7Y-0006AJ-66 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 02 May 2020 16:28:00 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:34998 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jUt7X-0007VO-9M for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 02 May 2020 10:27:59 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:35968) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jUt74-00073d-5K for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 02 May 2020 10:27:30 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jUt73-0000s5-JI for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 02 May 2020 10:27:29 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-lj1-x22d.google.com ([2a00:1450:4864:20::22d]:43550) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jUt70-0000hv-HO; Sat, 02 May 2020 10:27:26 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-lj1-x22d.google.com with SMTP id l19so5207860lje.10; Sat, 02 May 2020 07:27:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=eRNlW2PVRLm0KVJ9VyyRq7zIoiQhqGnzkiXyNiWSnw0=; b=gYdA57dMqJlb8kEtG5Y5WS1k129Ez0pdem9raBwb0Bdi9a+AlbgrMuQX4g10E/39uT niQVqFat1dELUytDiPn31EKzz9lFBysGEs9oBel8f0C4JPOZ1+Cq7tAm5appnyMoHd6+ sBaz0cIhbGHeZf24uE4BUqvQ2c4gx5WsUkaijspgK//vrp6CO7pRoGyWKweH8KgYdeY5 ZR4nWfBjMk38rY3F+U/3NOTfYp7Y3RZEV7+z34lxxQwFihf56+3rEicInZVnHohTCQen R4HjeJI8aH5tYYYSciDKMYyOpkzAyuIyafoQIClyLT9jxilvfbCqEh8qixfPnVmF5NZ/ 1lvA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=eRNlW2PVRLm0KVJ9VyyRq7zIoiQhqGnzkiXyNiWSnw0=; b=ILWoXle/bXjYT+eLdCTkFVjA1S1wvrgq1igTl3EncCR7CXLTnTyxd5j3MYCKyG2bJf pfetfIBx3SeG4tOXFMnh046+yzSNApZ5uT9UUBXaKj7jRU8po/gYGyGQ9CHnSFL5iKJa UGwMioaPLRGUYfa/dfOh//1P8I9oJcwo0Ds2ovGEqETwA46LSf2op+14VIBUeZGakoGo 46wlpI1VIuZ9zHYRPVJllGJiZ1SShQNOt7l3wWPFJ0fOq1+GXseGwVOlykZySjPjdyFH KgVOKZtxnVEggwF+ODlUV9sStfS2EhrKxbexj2QAh/TLuBMtBAmirddEZtXuAfLBXW0N 0WRg== X-Gm-Message-State: AGi0PubvgFPswcfFOrNpulINIaE7L5hAnBn0fQwhlSPJVfzg9v2Y67uV KhHTzTGZ9QA91VjEsJwdGxQqF1Y0ylS9LArJ46ImAdX1eKljYA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: APiQypK2qKk/j4azAieEpkTGYuJyRoWNmdVrGrFEuRLcGxTiebVN/ElmAUwOD4UpOxUM63CmInL+luTkyHy8QMOWJxE= X-Received: by 2002:a2e:8e8a:: with SMTP id z10mr5059329ljk.107.1588429643829; Sat, 02 May 2020 07:27:23 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <83r1w2s9wi.fsf@gnu.org> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a00:1450:4864:20::22d; envelope-from=philippe.vaucher@gmail.com; helo=mail-lj1-x22d.google.com X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: [-] PROGRAM ABORT : Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). Location : parse_addr6(), p0f-client.c:67 X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:4864:20::22d X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:248452 Archived-At: --000000000000abd78705a4ab18f3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > The command "C-u C-h d regexp RET" brings up 111 matching functions. > Who will have patience looking through that list, unless the likely > candidates are near the beginning? And this is even before we added > aliases that use the regexp- prefix. If the goal is to list all the functions related to manipulating the topic of regexp (something like https://docs.python.org/2/library/re.html#regular-expression-objects or https://ruby-doc.org/core-2.7.1/Regexp.html), then the search you propose is a poor tool. It starts with the following list: grep-regexp-alist, gmm-regexp-concat, project-find-regexp, shell-dumb-shell-regexp, rmail-secondary-file-regexp, rmail-user-mail-address-regexp, tramp-file-name-regexp, whitespace-indentation-regexp, project-or-external-find-regexp... All of which are irrelevant to what we search. What it should list is https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/elisp/Regexp-Search.html, but also merged with the Match Data documentation, presented in a much more condensed manner, etc. Philippe --000000000000abd78705a4ab18f3 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
The command "C-u C-h d regexp RET" brings up 1= 11 matching functions.
Who will have patience looking through that list, unless the likely
candidates are near the beginning?=C2=A0 And this is even before we added aliases that use the regexp- prefix.

If the= goal is to list all the functions related to manipulating the topic of reg= exp (something like=C2=A0https://docs.python.org/2/library/re.html#re= gular-expression-objects=C2=A0or=C2=A0https://ruby-doc.org/core-2.7.1/Regexp.html), th= en the search you propose is a poor tool.

It start= s with the following list: grep-regexp-alist, gmm-regexp-concat, project-fi= nd-regexp, shell-dumb-shell-regexp, rmail-secondary-file-regexp, rmail-user= -mail-address-regexp, tramp-file-name-regexp, whitespace-indentation-regexp= , project-or-external-find-regexp... All of which are irrelevant to what we= search.

What it should list is=C2=A0https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/elisp/Regexp-Search.ht= ml, but also merged with the Match Data documentation, presented in a m= uch more condensed manner, etc.

Philippe


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