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That's all we know. X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=_AUTOLEARN X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:249445 Archived-At: > I don't resist asking: does relinquishing copyright of a work to > the "Free Software Foundation" a "nonprofit with a worldwide > mission to promote computer user freedom" really say nothing > about what values one wishes to endorse? For me (and I suspect others) it was like this: I see something I'd like to change in Emacs and I want to contribute. I take the time to write a patch and I want to send, then I'm told I cannot send it until I sign these papers. This annoys me, the papers looks pretty fear-based and everywhere else open source I just send a patch and I'm done. Those other open source entities don't seem to have legal problems. Also it's not just something where I sign online and click and I'm done, I have to print, sign, scan and send by email. This delay my patch sending several months until finally my thirst of wanting this patch in is too strong and I bother with the assignments.