From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Philippe Vaucher Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: dash.el [was: Re: Imports / inclusion of s.el into Emacs] Date: Mon, 11 May 2020 11:46:52 +0200 Message-ID: References: <87d07cwtb1.fsf@fastmail.fm> <87ftc67sae.fsf@fastmail.fm> <20200511092741.GA2743@tuxteam.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="65287"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Emacs developers To: tomas@tuxteam.de Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon May 11 11:48:06 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jY52b-000Gu1-BS for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 11 May 2020 11:48:05 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56728 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jY52a-00019Y-8Z for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 11 May 2020 05:48:04 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:42344) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jY51t-00006h-CP for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 11 May 2020 05:47:22 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-lf1-x12d.google.com ([2a00:1450:4864:20::12d]:36337) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jY51s-00036i-6o for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 11 May 2020 05:47:21 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-lf1-x12d.google.com with SMTP id c21so2335401lfb.3 for ; Mon, 11 May 2020 02:47:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=4RGzCHOjiJ2PMlPCSx6afPfjoTVM2ggZ/eTfGyl3i3g=; b=tCMb6mL//GcXWfZGUQ8Nlv+eGyoRqE3rfP5KdlctZCycdKVu0R77iIHwW3nlpuvEVJ vjMCHxYKN7hSsc5N6DWSY+QvKSXArO5bzNpm+fISCujqjIMUr0TNlaw6xiIixsabQhwq Z7GPC7EHL0aZUROtcNXZvHHkL+SYLbXRBp66/8dsr5vv0e/vXPLfrIxRSipqgrTrhEgF 9E1S76PsT0uRXy/yW770MBBDizK3yvSrlMAaLXRyAwzB7+sR3fQKMRM3DHNVF2Tpn+Bv XgVf9AarMc/pX25UFxzhi7Sv8kK+2duUo7qUy1qXNEG23x6gY4l9pFUKlUMC/kzWxnC9 hRgw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=4RGzCHOjiJ2PMlPCSx6afPfjoTVM2ggZ/eTfGyl3i3g=; b=Qf3pv1cHuz3qveaJVGYwS9hHDuMTnQW3GH8j4V6ajMNokWvrzsDirsDYmW7wVZDZ87 TTAwUnT/paQiNItRUyifLrhnB6A6FrxM0YCrfalk4BwAZzOLFQPJlNl/YHO8j/1dSp+I Gm5aeu1/Ta/toL/sKXZBnsJqile9H0kTURWOU2ROmAwC9F6zIVVJnmDK6Kt/eF1eyA+N 0D4nIeI/hmTTZVrXPPInFkSXMMmzCHu5Qyw83O76TZAy3/BfAUTl5JBQzgIjHlBSdvVo G6EyiS8thFfhvJXuu8mUvRtTxj6NaX3PYDK7IrkfAXipE1zM6py1lkQO+daSApxcPpQx NWvg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530TSOF+GkMOFTuNLarGfG+nE0GSOo2BukcdZufWd1wBVG+X06Ox nFbfsxZJnbZsqekfYeNGwWGKzzq1V1eP6rFpoo5i6QaK X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJyxygImbgOMP05v3l7Jb8/6qB6fJP62aVu/XNM6y8K+bYY8+19YObyswSdt+yakBno6reAWPRkrSM29SD1yBwY= X-Received: by 2002:ac2:4248:: with SMTP id m8mr10550126lfl.211.1589190438719; Mon, 11 May 2020 02:47:18 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20200511092741.GA2743@tuxteam.de> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a00:1450:4864:20::12d; envelope-from=philippe.vaucher@gmail.com; helo=mail-lf1-x12d.google.com X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: No matching host in p0f cache. That's all we know. X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=_AUTOLEARN X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:249771 Archived-At: > In *your* frame of reference, perhaps. Not in mine, by a far shot. > And I think /that/ is one of the shortcomings of this discussion. > > As long as we don't accept all that there are different approaches > and give up on the "mine's better (or 'more modern' or 'more Lispy' > or whatnot) than yours" the discussion is bound to go in circles > (at best) or to hurt feelings (at worst). For the record I think I've reach that point since a while now. I'll happily continue to explain my way of thinking but I'm not pushing anymore for mass aliases/renames, this is a dead end.