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That's all we know. X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001 autolearn=_AUTOLEARN X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:249473 Archived-At: > > I think Eli has indicated that LSP support in the core is desirable > > at some point > > Not only desirable: long overdue. Emacs must learn to use the latest > technologies of supporting programming languages based on real > parsing, because the time when it could be done with regular > expressions and similar techniques has come and gone. We cannot > enable significant new IDE-like features if we don't acquire these > technologies. > > Please someone start working on this ASAP. We sorely need that, just > look at the recent discussions on Reddit that underline these > deficiencies in Emacs. Sorry to sound like captain obvious, but shouldn't we contact the people at https://github.com/emacs-lsp/lsp-mode and work with them on this? Maybe that's already the case? I know there are also other repositories with more or less the same goal.