From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Philippe Vaucher Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Add some aliases for re-related functions Date: Mon, 4 May 2020 20:17:02 +0200 Message-ID: References: <7976B8C1-AFC7-4662-B750-6492EB70C0D5@gmail.com> <29721725-0696-4dcf-b5de-36924a5de259@default> <3777996c-7b3f-4d44-9636-f18aaff76a65@default> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="42937"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Yuan Fu , Stefan Monnier , Emacs developers To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon May 04 20:18:05 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jVffJ-000B2M-99 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 04 May 2020 20:18:05 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51846 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jVffI-0005jk-BX for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 04 May 2020 14:18:04 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:36478) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jVfem-0005KJ-AJ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 04 May 2020 14:17:32 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-lf1-x133.google.com ([2a00:1450:4864:20::133]:38065) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jVfel-0000lG-Ez for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 04 May 2020 14:17:31 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-lf1-x133.google.com with SMTP id b26so828804lfa.5 for ; Mon, 04 May 2020 11:17:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=pFEzplIBLhQxWBc4X4iOqQwPz9/lO1hsgb1/5Y4m1Ws=; b=cQfluZECa9BrAEYM8oSeuVbmmVMkz1K1r55fORbGHAJwt2h1iu87wVRezm1hyVKV6K OEKjbYDc1ue6+ZHF70KQFXRQRNbWE0FyZiTcwYcK6b5VjvkqqrgkE9bKoHzaz2ODnFWa YohRbOq+qKPAZire7qkjjOb4sIt+3bNxvMv30nPDH175FNnWWyvd+XOIx0z1RKDZuY/r SbFpLccX4Zl7NgMQYAuTGTM9LKY1uZ+pgCLZwlntIhqyVPT8vcrrH75G5ruHxX+arpcJ TSfkcWf8Snj220JcBFDQK3fAs0356xuLeXVUVi5D4Fe1jbflJ7DAFVMyyjL+U8h6pAeH dz+g== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=pFEzplIBLhQxWBc4X4iOqQwPz9/lO1hsgb1/5Y4m1Ws=; b=pqTyc5mOI+YyxyQLqrrMBvkl+4pb1L9gKVseds0Ohd9GiEcffFw8Mx93YpbwUfWaOW /AIGrCiaTW4Pdf8/TOV3+QQ/yZ5QiGKoDDHw/xqbRd6tLk+CjVDSmRddUwmo+EnD4U0t CSzCT8KukI7sV8MDiTfjnk21hQxiLVSxlIan3uBd5r/D9MYBCYoPAY+XMTNoV+nEEIqY E/T/EMflUj7krj2oHzptOtE3Fb194zcocpxpa+ossHxAdWimh4Jmlm40Tdln559qW7DB +F8GefdVD/kP/zX9naVaJIEhD6vBFeM+RcjQAWzqaP2ZaCO6DYdz/EohraQAEke7KN4o eDbw== X-Gm-Message-State: AGi0PuZbcSASO/McyXAJFZL3pGqzUTThntiK/yZg/tO+PCa+Ver10h9L kJsNu9gtlmyGHjNuKJmKp56YPMtMmxi3sXi1brg= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APiQypIiU8ShQLAfUJPg7g1waQvA98c2KLIacCj1yt3zU3zk/ZoKs58JCbliZ356vpc+AZUjht+EVOgbw5SRHiMk3Aw= X-Received: by 2002:a19:f719:: with SMTP id z25mr4993118lfe.76.1588616248809; Mon, 04 May 2020 11:17:28 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a00:1450:4864:20::133; envelope-from=philippe.vaucher@gmail.com; helo=mail-lf1-x133.google.com X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: No matching host in p0f cache. That's all we know. X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=_AUTOLEARN X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:248893 Archived-At: > I may have disagreed with this or that. > Just one opinion. Agreement and disagreement, > with accompanying arguments, are normal. I probably over reacted a bit, sorry. > > If I had to name it it'd be: > > > > keep-lines -> buffer-keep-lines > > flush-lines -> buffer-flush-lines > > OK. So for you the most relevant thing involved > is the buffer. Can you imagine that some might > think something else is more relevant/helpful? But at this point you'd now that I'd be fine with things not being perfectly categorized. What I'm complaining about is the lack of categories for a lot of functions, or categories that don't look consistent. For example, if everything string-regexp was under the "text-" prefix, I'd already be pretty happy compared to the current situation. Right now it's a bit here, a bit there, all spread around. Also as I said earlier if at least there was a standard, like "verb-object" I could understand, but the lack of consistency between "sometimes prefix, sometimes not, sometimes idiosyncracy" makes everything very unpredictable. Maybe I'd just embrace the chaos and the uncertainty but, I think having a reasonable amount of arbitrary prefixes would not be such a crime :-) Do you see my point?