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Location : parse_addr6(), p0f-client.c:67 X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:4864:20::230 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:248409 Archived-At: --000000000000098ec205a4a8efa0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > > I think we are mixing two concepts here. To search for a single > function, where you already know the > > keywords, yes "C-h d" works. To get a curated list of the API of a > topic, not so much. > > That's why I proposed to have a variant of "C-h d" that would only > look in the arguments and in the first line of the doc string. It > would produce less false positives. > Ok but that means it does not exist now, so that's why I say "C-h d" does not work for me for all use cases right now. But ok we agree. > > Because alist is controversial let's take "C-h d regexp match": it does > not give me string-match nor > > match-string. > > ??? It does here. It's listed at the 1293th lines! I have to scroll for ages, while passing by `magic-mode-regexp-match-limit` or `char-fold-to-regexp`. Surely this cannot be a good solution. Philippe --000000000000098ec205a4a8efa0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
> I think we are mixing two concepts here. To search = for a single function, where you already know the
> keywords, yes "C-h d" works. To get a curated list of the AP= I of a topic, not so much.

That's why I proposed to have a variant of "C-h d" that would= only
look in the arguments and in the first line of the doc string.=C2=A0 It
would produce less false positives.

Ok = but that means it does not exist now, so that's why I say "C-h d&q= uot; does not work for me for all use cases right now. But ok we agree.

=C2=A0
> Because alist is controversial let's take "C-h d r= egexp match": it does not give me string-match nor
> match-string.

??? It does here.

It's listed at the 12= 93th lines! I have to scroll for ages, while passing by `magic-mode-regexp-= match-limit` or `char-fold-to-regexp`. Surely this cannot be a good solutio= n.

Philippe
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