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From: Paul Pogonyshev <pogonyshev@gmail.com>
To: Paul Pogonyshev <pogonyshev@gmail.com>,
	Emacs developers <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Make computational threads leave user interface usable
Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2017 22:19:39 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAG7BpapO_vyX-v+8tSg7r9q60MHSdvZU+GY5Me26LZrRxYB95A@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m2h8uduavh.fsf@newartisans.com>

> I wouldn't say it's pointless, just that it calls for a programming regimen
> where you add (thread-yield) calls at appropriate places.

What if this auto-yield is made optional? It sort of already is in the
patch, but the default value could be made nil. Then, you can activate
it downstream by using (let ((thread-auto-yield-after ...) ...), but
normally it is not active. So, activating becomes your own decision,
not something sneaked upon you.

Peppering code with (thread-yield) has downsides in that it requires
to write every single piece of code you might at some point run in a
separate thread with that in mind. And not everything is as simple
as one loop with many iterations. And if you fail to add (thread-yield)
at reasonable intervals, it will still lead to unresponsive UI that
sometimes works smoothly, yet at other times freezes for a couple
of seconds.

I think it would be very useful to be able to run sort-of-arbitrary
computation without freezing UI. (Sort-of, because it shouldn't
interfere with UI, but otherwise can compute whatever it wants).
Imagine e.g. running 5000 ERT tests, and still continuing to work
with Emacs as normal.

Paul



  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-11-01 21:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-11-01 15:06 Make computational threads leave user interface usable Paul Pogonyshev
2017-11-01 15:10 ` Paul Pogonyshev
2017-11-01 18:12 ` John Wiegley
2017-11-01 20:03   ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-11-01 21:19   ` Paul Pogonyshev [this message]
2017-11-01 21:47     ` John Wiegley
2017-11-03 15:50     ` Stefan Monnier
2017-11-01 19:10 ` Noam Postavsky
2017-11-01 20:16   ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-11-01 20:26     ` Noam Postavsky

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